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Post by Abbyromana on Sept 9, 2009 2:51:07 GMT
Getting back to the idea of swapping Doctors, I was reminded of Terrance Dicks on the subject of writing for the Doctor -- that he writes for 'The Doctor', not any particular incarnation. The first time I saw him say this, he went on to say that when he rewrote The Ultimate Adventure to replace the Third Doctor with the Sixth, all he had to do was remove a couple of catchphrases and insert a few puns. I'm sure he'd be happy to do the same with Horror of Fang Rock, if the need arose. I'm a bit confused by two things you said, johne. Not saying you are wrong, but I don't know you reference. First, what is this The Ultimate Adventure by Terrance Dicks? I'm not familiar with it. I'm familiar with Dicks, but not this tale. But Other Seven (assuming he still got created) would be more likely to shoot first and ask questions later, or set some cunning plan in motion before leaving the TARDIS, so Donna might avoid getting zapped by Davros and there'd be no need to brainwipe her. Second, who is Other Seven you mention a few post back? Is this from a book story or just your original creation?
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Post by primsong on Sept 9, 2009 5:36:54 GMT
....First, what is this The Ultimate Adventure by Terrance Dicks? I'm not familiar with it. I'm familiar with Dicks, but not this tale. That would be the rather entertaining Doctor Who live stage production that started out with Jon Pertwee in it and then was rewritten for Colin Baker.
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Post by johne on Sept 9, 2009 7:13:17 GMT
Second, who is Other Seven you mention a few post back? Is this from a book story or just your original creation? In the original Journey's End, the half-human Other Ten gets created from Proper Ten's hand. So, if you put the Seventh Doctor in Journey's End, you'd presumably end up with a half-human Other Seven instead.
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Post by Abbyromana on Sept 9, 2009 13:57:32 GMT
In the original Journey's End, the half-human Other Ten gets created from Proper Ten's hand. So, if you put the Seventh Doctor in Journey's End, you'd presumably end up with a half-human Other Seven instead. Ah, but that's assuming he'd have gone through the sword fight with the Bone-headed villian whose name escapes me at the moment. Of course, that would have been a more interesting first episode for Seven than the Time and the Rani. Hmmm... now that would be an interesting swap. Seven facing off the robo Santas, sword fighting Bone-headed villian, giving them that warning. Oh, that's so Remembrance of the Daleks that speech! And I can just imagine how Seven would take down PM Harriet Jones. Oh, what a brilliant idea, johne. Thanks for giving it to me!
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Post by johne on Sept 9, 2009 18:00:29 GMT
Seven facing off the robo Santas, sword fighting Bone-headed villian I think the sword fight would involve him opening his umbrella in the Sycorax chief's face at the crucial moment
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Post by lostspook on Sept 9, 2009 18:18:12 GMT
Thank you, but what I was actually perpetrating was Master Test - the story it was actually ch3 of. You may have wiped it from your memory, but there was bad poetry and dreadful outfits and Mel getting tied to the railway track. :lol: And Sutekh! Oh my goodness, you remember more than me. I'd forgotten that particular pun.
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Post by lostspook on Sept 9, 2009 18:22:42 GMT
I also love this idea, Seven getting The Christmas Invasion for his first story. Plus, if they do a direct swap, Ten gets Time and the Rani, in which the Rani drags him off "Leave the girl, it's the man I want!" and attempts a bad impression of Rose Tyler. With Mickey the Tetrap. I have a feeling it'd be a ball. I'm tempted to write it, only hampered by the fact that I've only ever seen the middle of the story. But I've read it, hey... Ten: "And what are all these scientists doing here...? Einstein? How cool is this?! What's with the bat-things?" Rani: "Do you ever shut up?" Ten: Possibly not. That might be my thing in this incarnation - incessant inane talking. Rani: On second thoughts, I'll take the girl.
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Post by jjpor on Sept 9, 2009 19:07:47 GMT
Heheh - now I've got this mental image of the Rani pretending to be Rose. I have to say, Kate O'Mara's sort-of impression of Bonnie Langford (or of Bonnie Langford's perkiness, anyway) is one of the highlights of that story for me. Not that the competition is particularly vigorous in that instance. ;D
I think Seven would be a good fit for any of those scenes when Ten is being all dark and portentous and ominous (or David Tennant is trying his best to be but usually ends up getting undermined by some angsty false note in the script). Of course, in a sense there already has been a Ten/Seven swap in the adaptation of Human Nature for TV - the telly story differs markedly from the plot of the book, but you can imagine Seven applying the smackdown to the Family of Blood all too well.
Another choice for Journey's End - Six vs Davros in the big end confrontation. I can imagine Six giving Davros a piece of his mind when he tried to start with the mind games - and if he did end up angsting, I'm sure he would do so in a far more dramatic and eloquent way than Ten. I can see the closing scene now - Wilf and Donna's mum trying to get him out of the house as he entered the third hour of his tragic soliloquy on the fleeting and tragic nature of friendship when you're a Time Lord...
And as I said on another thread ages ago, I sort of fantasise about the Bob Holmes/Tom Baker version of the Shakespeare Code - I'm sure Leela would take to swashbuckling Elizabethan London like a duck to water, and if Four didn't end up on stage at one point, wowing the groundlings, I'd be very disappointed indeed...
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Post by merrythemad on Sept 9, 2009 19:25:34 GMT
oooooooooh JJ, I love love LOVE Six in JE, though I prefer to think he's having some sort of eight process requiem for his friend, and ten in Time and the Rani ,Lost, too funny!
What about Eight in Dalek, the episode would much different with a happy nonPTSD doc at the reigns.
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Post by lostspook on Sept 9, 2009 19:31:25 GMT
Heh, yes, Six in Journey's End would be very good, but you wrong him, you know you do. Remember his reaction to *suddenly considers spoilers* erm, that incident in Trial? He certainly doesn't soliloquise then. "You've X'd Y?" he says.
Although, maybe he could sing again? "I am the very model of a Gallifreyan buccaneer!" la la la. And it could be a musical episode.
(Sorry, I said I was meant to singing and absolutely not on the computer. And if I am I should at least see if I can put something other than dialogue into the start of my story. Mind you, that could be because of Six...)
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Post by Abbyromana on Sept 9, 2009 19:32:09 GMT
And as I said on another thread ages ago, I sort of fantasise about the Bob Holmes/Tom Baker version of the Shakespeare Code - I'm sure Leela would take to swashbuckling Elizabethan London like a duck to water, and if Four didn't end up on stage at one point, wowing the groundlings, I'd be very disappointed indeed... I want that! I soooo want that now! Especially with Leela, it would amazingly perfect. She'd still be in the area of whether to believe in magic or believe the Doctor telling her that it is just another version of science. And I think it would be funny to see Shakespeare hit on her. She'd definitely less than subtle in telling him off or telling him he smelled bad. I sooo want to write this now. I have myself already pondering whether she'd be in her skins or some Elizabethan Age outfit that the Doctor forced her to wear. Damn you, JJ, for putting more fun plot bunnies in my head. *sigh* I have too many already, but now, I really, really want to write this too.
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Post by jjpor on Sept 9, 2009 19:52:51 GMT
I do wrong Six; it's a hobby of mine... ;D
I think it would be interesting to see what Leela made of theatre, for that matter; Four trying to explain to her that it's not real after she's just leapt up on stage, knife in hand, to help Hamlet out in his duel...
I think the thing about Seven in Journey's End is that it might have ended up pretty much as it did in the Ten version, except that it'd turn out he'd planned it that way all along... Ah, Seven can slap Daleks around till the cows come home; he needs a bigger challenge than the likes of them. ;D
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Post by lostspook on Sept 9, 2009 19:56:36 GMT
I do wrong Six; it's a hobby of mine... ;D I think it would be interesting to see what Leela made of theatre, for that matter; Four trying to explain to her that it's not real after she's just leapt up on stage, knife in hand, to help Hamlet out in his duel... I think the thing about Seven in Journey's End is that it might have ended up pretty much as it did in the Ten version, except that it'd turn out he'd planned it that way all along... Ah, Seven can slap Daleks around till the cows come home; he needs a bigger challenge than the likes of them. ;D Ah, but Leela has some idea about the theatre - she's been to a Music Hall! (Although the lovely idea of her rendering one of Shakespeare's tragedies unexpectedly less tragic would be priceless.) Brilliant! Somehow the mental image of Seven 'slapping Daleks till the cows come home' leaves me a disturbing weird and amusing mental image. ;D
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Post by lostspook on Sept 9, 2009 19:59:14 GMT
Besides, you can do Absolutely Perfect Six, too. I've seen you. But when it came to something that serious, well, actually, I don't think he'd have done it. I think he might have respected Donna's choice - or... *contemplates in sudden horror what Other Six might have done* *contemplates Rose marrying Other Six* Bwah ha ha ha haha ha ha.... Yes, this should definitely have been what happened.
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Post by lostspook on Sept 9, 2009 20:00:10 GMT
Why, why, do I now have a totally wrong, insane desire to write Rose/Six fic?
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Post by Abbyromana on Sept 9, 2009 20:20:46 GMT
Why, why, do I now have a totally wrong, insane desire to write Rose/Six fic? Do it! Do it! If for no other reason than to see where you take it. If you need a betaer, I'd be up for it.
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Post by merrythemad on Sept 9, 2009 20:31:41 GMT
I'd love to see Wilf's reaction to Six on his doorstep with unconscious Donna (poor poor donna)
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Post by clocketpatch on Sept 9, 2009 21:07:11 GMT
What about Eight in Dalek, the episode would much different with a happy nonPTSD doc at the reigns. Thing about Dalek though, is that it's already a re-adaptation of a Sixth Doctor audio. Though, they changed it so much it's really a completely different story now, different Doctor aside...
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Post by johne on Sept 9, 2009 21:42:49 GMT
Why, why, do I now have a totally wrong, insane desire to write Rose/Six fic? Write it! Write it!(everyone has got the Dalek font installed, right?)
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Post by Abbyromana on Sept 9, 2009 23:10:53 GMT
(everyone has got the Dalek font installed, right?) No, but I will now. Thank you for sharing! EDIT: I can't get the zip file to work for me. Can anyone unzip it for me or suggest a program other than CamUnzip and 7-zip? Please?
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