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Post by librarylover on Feb 20, 2010 19:26:24 GMT
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Post by jjpor on Feb 21, 2010 0:18:16 GMT
I can't actually view that vid (which is a bit of a reversal of fortune as it's usually non-UKian viewers who can't see the vids! ;D), but if it's the same one I saw in YouTube form on livejournal earlier, then all I have to say is:
*AMY IS SCOTTISH!!! No more companions only from London! I don't care if the rest of the trailer is rubbish - AMY TALKS SCOTTISH!!! ;D*
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Post by clocketpatch on Feb 21, 2010 0:44:33 GMT
I... I do not know what I just saw...
Matty boy's voice really annoys me. Nothing against him. It's just a knee jerk reaction. It hits some little internal button and registers as annoying. Head!desk.
This new series had better be good to make up.
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Post by jjpor on Feb 21, 2010 17:03:55 GMT
To be honest, they're not really selling Eleven much with that trailer - apart from the aforementioned * Scottishness* and the possible annoyingness, or not, of the boy Smith's voice, it's...well, nothing much really. I was hoping for more clips from actual episodes of Season 1/5/31, but alas no... * Maybe I'm going soft in my old age, but the lying down looking at the stars thing was kind of cute, and WTF giant dinosaur-skull-monster thing at the end?!* I also saw this: SPOILER! community.livejournal.com/doctorwho/5641033.html?#cutid1 SPOILER! * Look - Eleven ships Rory and Amy! That kind of reassures me for some reason. Unless...unless Moffat isn't pushing the Eleven/Amy because he wants to save Eleven for River Song... *
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Post by clocketpatch on Feb 22, 2010 1:15:31 GMT
I did see that. ;D
*The whole Amy/Rory thing is making me ridiculously happy It's always cute when the Doctor ships his companions. Unless... of course... he's being save for Mary Sue I mean River Song. Of course, I'm sort of hoping, from what we've seen of Matty boy (which isn't much really), that he'll be adorable and clueless, kidnapping Amy, trying to ship her with Rory, not steering his ship very well, and generally missing every cue that gets thrown his way by anyone.
If Amy ends up leaving Rory for him (AKA, the Mickey-dump syndrome) I shall be very much perturbed.
Also, if they do some weird coupling double-dating thing with Doctor/River Amy/Rory...
Actually. I'd almost put up with Doctor/River if Moffat did that. Because that would be hilarious.
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Post by merrythemad on Feb 22, 2010 12:20:32 GMT
I maintain River is not a bad character, I like the whole timey-wimeyness thing added. That being said, her storyline is already in tatters and I'm wondering whether they can adequately rationalise that away.
I'm, terribly afraid the Doctor is shipping Amy/Rory because he did something to break Amy/Rory, after all, he DOES pop out of a cake and announce he kissed the bride-to-be at the Stag Night (is that the proper term?). I do have more to add, but I'm not awake yet, so I'll timeloop edit later
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Post by jjpor on Feb 22, 2010 21:51:21 GMT
*Yeah, apparently so... Cake aside ;D, I could see that whole thing either being intensely annoying a la Ten/Rose or actually pretty funny, depending on how it was played. I sort of like the idea of a clueless, very alien, sort of Eleven thinking he needs to *do something* to save Rory/Amy, and doing it in a very inept, slapstick sort of way.
Hopefully, of course, the main thing will be, you know, the plots, aliens etc, but if they must touch on the shippy stuff (as they will - we know they will - it's NuWho!), I'd prefer that they did it like that.
Agreed that River could actually be a very good character, done right, even if she does have that risk of Mary-Sueness. As you say, though, Merry, it'd be a bit hard to reconcile things now with what we thought we were told in Silence in the Library...
I think Amy leaving Rory "for" Eleven, Rose/Mickey style would be the worst case scenario, Clocket - I would be a very, very unhappy little Whovian indeed, because it would mean that there really is no light at the end of the tunnel and that the Moff was a false saviour after all (although I think Merry's been trying to tell us that for a while now! ;D)
Oh well, I can live in blissful ignorance until Apr 3 (I believe the date is now confirmed as Apr 3):
la la la la la la...*
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Post by merrythemad on Feb 23, 2010 14:01:18 GMT
HOLD THE PHONE!!! I realise I may seem a bit anti-Moffat, but truth be told, I only worry. I am certainly not trying decry the new Doctor or show-runners before the new series even airs, I just believe strongly in guarding against false-hope. I am super excited to see what spring will bring.
** in fact, one thing that really excited me was the page from the script that JJ linkied us all to! I was shocked to see how Differently than I you all interpreted it, I myself read it as FINALLY! a NICE Doctor again, one who is sensitive to smaller experience of his companions. Not saying Ten was mean (sociopaths are rarely mean lol) He just reveled and reviled in the fact that he knew MORE. So I really am excited to see a new Doctor and to see if Moffat brings more aspects of what he sees the Doctor to be (bits I think we saw most clearly in The Doctor Dances, Blink and Forest of the Dead) to the role. **
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Post by jjpor on Feb 23, 2010 19:59:31 GMT
Oh no, Merry, I know all you've been saying is that we should keep a cool head and our feet on the ground (and our fingers crossed!), and you're absolutely right. I guess I'm one of the people who has latched onto the "Moff era" and projected their own hopes and fears onto it (he and Eleven are truly, it would seem, all things to all people at the moment, meaning that whatever happens come Easter, somebody somewhere is going to feel betrayed and disappointed - but that's just fandom for you! ;D ) But like you, I'm hoping for the best - I'm just getting a bit giddy and overexcited as well! ;D
And I think you make an excellent point about the leaked script (assuming it really is a leaked script). Wouldn't it be nice just to have a Doctor who was, well...NICE. And perhaps a little bit less pathologically self-absorbed... ;D
Not that I'm kicking Ten while he's down or anything!
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Post by Maggadin on Feb 23, 2010 20:37:45 GMT
Actually, I'm convinced that that's exactly what Moffat wants. I'll be glad to be proven wrong, and I swear that in the event that I am I will post a picture of myself with a note that says ''Steven Moffat [obscene word that I won't post here] gold!''
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Post by jjpor on Feb 24, 2010 21:26:18 GMT
Well, I suppose it's just the waiting game now - just approach it all with an open mind and see what happens. *I share Maggadin's fears about River, but also share Merry's hope that she could be a good thing done in the right way. She certainly has potential. I'd just like to see her *do* awesome things rather than the script just expecting us to think she's awesome because the writer likes her, which maybe happened a bit in her previous story. I also think it'd be nice to continue what Ten had with Donna, and have a Doctor for whom the whole will they/won't they thing with his female companions wasn't the overriding issue the whole time as it was with Rose, and even with poor Martha. We shall see, anyway...*
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Post by merrythemad on Feb 25, 2010 13:48:22 GMT
*snorts* poor Martha got no less than she asked for.
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Post by jjpor on Feb 25, 2010 19:04:38 GMT
*snorts* poor Martha got no less than she asked for. LOL ;D Martha is sort of like Marmite (don't know if you have Marmite outside the UK, but it's horrible stuff you can put on toast etc - yeast extract or something equally appalling) in that you either love her or hate her. I'll just make my usual comment that I think she could have been better written, and leave it at that.
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Post by merrythemad on Feb 26, 2010 17:34:43 GMT
Here's a first, American whovians KNOW when they get series 5, April 17 (YAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) UK whovians still a bit foggy though transmission likely April 3. Now to decide whether I want to be two weeks behind JJ, Maggie, Lost (mebbe?) and everyone else the BBC prefers over me
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Post by jjpor on Feb 26, 2010 23:46:06 GMT
Darn you, BBC - you and your Brit-centric national chauvinism!! ;D
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Post by lostspook on Feb 28, 2010 8:42:22 GMT
Here's a first, American whovians KNOW when they get series 5, April 17 (YAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) UK whovians still a bit foggy though transmission likely April 3. Now to decide whether I want to be two weeks behind JJ, Maggie, Lost (mebbe?) and everyone else the BBC prefers over me Yes, I'm British, merry! April 3rd is inconvenient for me: Dear BBC, please could you start on the following week? Thank you very much. :lol:
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Post by lostspook on Feb 28, 2010 8:45:46 GMT
*snorts* poor Martha got no less than she asked for. LOL ;D Martha is sort of like Marmite (don't know if you have Marmite outside the UK, but it's horrible stuff you can put on toast etc - yeast extract or something equally appalling) in that you either love her or hate her. I'll just make my usual comment that I think she could have been better written, and leave it at that. What? Firstly, really? And, secondly, that is a really unfortunate simile, JJ. I'd delete the post and never mention it again. :lol: (I'd have thought both Rose and Donna were more likely to be Marmite - provoking extremes - than Martha.)
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Post by johne on Feb 28, 2010 14:55:44 GMT
April 3rd is inconvenient for me: Dear BBC, please could you start on the following week? Thank you very much. :lol: And me, what with it being Easter Eve and all. I shall just have to trust to the good offices of the DVD recorder.
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Post by merrythemad on Feb 28, 2010 16:52:37 GMT
nuWho and I seem to have a connection to Easter, I really first realised NuWho had me hooked as I waited for Part two of Human Nature (now known of course as FoB) to air and found myself searching for other, older, nuWho online to watch and fill my time.
As for Martha v. Donna v. Rose, personally, we all know how I feel about Martha, lol, but honestly Lost brings up a fair point, Donna and Rose are either worshiped or abhorred by the vast majority I've noticed. Which, sadly, makes them more polarising.
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Post by jjpor on Feb 28, 2010 23:23:25 GMT
The BBC - first their extravagant overspending, now this total lack of consideration for Who fans... ;D
I think all Who companions are somebody or other's favourite/most hated, actually. Rose is possibly the foremost example, at least as far as NuWho goes, but law of averages suggests that there must be people out there who think Adric. Mel, Peri etc were the best companion ever and that the likes of Jamie and Sarah Jane were just awful. It's a broad church, is Whodom.
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