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Post by clocketpatch on Jul 4, 2008 17:39:39 GMT
Um, possible spoilers for Journey's End and speculative spoilers for the Christmas Special Okay, so I'm starting this thread because I had rather odd dream last night. I think it came from reading this: planetgallifrey.blogspot.com/2008/04/christmas-special.htmlrather too close to bedtime. Anyway... So, the 'Other Doctor' could be just any historic doctor, or they could be a fake after the nature of the 'One Doctor' audio. The later is actually really likely. But his outfit *does* look mighty Doctorish. Anyway, I had a dream last night wherein DT properly regenerates into that dude but realises that he'll need help to defeat the Daleks (possible cause he'll still be in post-regenerative crisis) and makes a clone DT out of the handinajar which he gives his recent memories to ('cause Time Lords can do that). So we'd have 11 and clone!10. And then clone!10 would eventually wear out and die sometime during the next season. I'm also thinking this episode, since the TIme War is no longer Time Locked, will be a gateway to bringing back the Time Lords and possibly throwing a giant reset switch which sends all of the new series companions back to where tey were before they met the Doctor and makes everything in the world all hunky dory again.
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Post by Stripes on Jul 4, 2008 19:09:57 GMT
Clone!10 could work seeing that they keep showing his hand in a jar in like every epsiode.
I kind of wish the doctor turns into 9. This says something since I don't like 9.
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Post by Kit on Jul 4, 2008 22:09:15 GMT
I think the Doctor should turn into Eight. =D With the whole Time War, timey wimey thing going on.
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Post by clocketpatch on Jul 5, 2008 4:23:45 GMT
Hmmm... something interesting. Wilfred Mott is an anagram of WTF TIMELORD. Now that's just odd.
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Post by ladydetemps on Jul 5, 2008 9:03:55 GMT
Wouldn't it be cool if the 'noble' family were timelords? and yes a vote for 8 for me
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Post by clocketpatch on Jul 5, 2008 12:31:20 GMT
actually.... T.F.W. TIMELORD
the fob watch Time Lord O.o
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Post by Kit on Jul 5, 2008 18:42:24 GMT
I think WTF TIMELORD is more fun.
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kinvoidstuff123
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(Not listening, looking off into time and space...)
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Post by kinvoidstuff123 on Jul 5, 2008 21:35:12 GMT
I SAW IT ! I hated it and I loved it.
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Post by Kit on Jul 5, 2008 21:38:28 GMT
Commentary:
WTF, Dude, that regeneration was stupid. I’m sorry, but I want a new Doctor! D=
Yay, Mickey saved Sarah! =D
He’s always bloody been him.
xD Donna + Jack FTW
…Germany? Lol at German Daleks. They just need to go to France, now. Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!
Star’s can’t ‘go out’. Well, at the same time. Yada yada, slight takes time to travel, relative to earth’s position, stars would have to have been going out with billions of years of difference in between each.
Donna ish speshul.
NO! Not the TARDIS! With Donna! Just no!
If the inside of the TARDIS is in another dimension… how can it be destroyed? ;-;
AHAHAHA CLOCKET YOU WERE RIGHT!
…And a billion fangirls just died.
But Jack can’t die, y/y?
OH NO HE DIDN’T.
…And Martha can speak German.
What’s with random old lady?
EW. EW. DAVROS. NO. DO NOT WANT.
Mad Dalek Caan is funny.
What is with Doctor Who and circular windows?
=D Sarah gets recognition!
New Series flashbacks? Really? It can’t be that hard to throw in some Classic!
What we need is the Brig. That would be awesome. And every other human companion the Doctor has ever had.
…Well, that was stupid.
Pft. It’s not the first time the end of the universe has come. Wow, was that a strange sentence.
Of course something had to malfunction right at the last second.
DoctorDonna friends! =D
Doctor. You need to not save Davros. He’s died so many times, he can die again and still survive.
Caan needs to be not telling the truth. I don’t want a companion to die. D=
AHAHAHA! The Gwen Gwyneth thing.!
=DDDD K-9!
=D Sarah FTW!
No. The Ten/Rose fic will increase exponentially. Rusty. I hate you. OMG, RUSTY I HATE YOU MORE.
WELL THAT SUCKS, I HATE YOU EVEN MORE RUSTY. DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
(yes, capslock, sorry)
That sucks. It got me teary-eyed. Which is the most I ever get.
End of series prediction: It’ll end with ‘what?’, y/y? NO! RUSTY, THAT IS THE FINAL STRAW. IT DIDN’T END WITH ‘WHAT?’, WTF?
I’m sure there’s been a Return of the Cybermen. Surely? I’ll look it up.
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Post by Stripes on Jul 6, 2008 3:01:42 GMT
It sucks so badly for Donna. Everyone went on to live a great life and Donna just becomes the old temp who does nothing with her life. YET SHE DID THE MOST WORK!
I love how The Doctor gives himself for a gift to Rose yet she didn't want THAT Doctor, she wanted the other one. LOL
Though the kiss grossed me out, I like Rose's ending. Because her story is over. She is not coming back. She got her Doctor, they can grow old, have children and live happily ever after.
I love how Mickey is going to join Torchwood. I may start watching.
And let us not forget spinning Daleks!
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Post by clocketpatch on Jul 6, 2008 4:35:01 GMT
I'm sorry, come again? I didn't regenerate. I decided not to.
Huh?
Rusty, dear, I honestly didn't know it was optional. Well, apparently (since you made it so) one can decide not to regenerate and die, but wtf? I just regenerated but I decided not to change my face? Huh?
Doesn't that just destroy the whole point of regeneration?
The rest of everything was a crack trip through the wonders of BAD CGI and didn't really happen. Though Mickey is still awesome.
Rose did NOTHING other than stand around as other companions confirmed her Mary-Sueness. Then at the end she got the Doctor's 'alone time hand's clone!baby!fake!human!Donna!Doctor to go off and make fanfic babies with (and really needlessly long and nasty tongue kisses). We all know that was solely so Rusty's Doctor/Rose domestic fanfics (that I am now sure he writes) would be acceptable canon.
Arghhhh!!!
And Donna is still Romana, even if she has been brain wiped ala Jamie & Zoe. Her ring sparkled at the end. IT SPARKLED DAMN IT!
So, um, I know there are currently a lot of happy fangirls out there squeeing themselves, but it always pisses me right off when a show starts catering to the fans to this degree. ENOUGH BLOODY FANWANK ALREADY! FANWANK KILLS! I don't want a show that caters to me over them, 'cause the fangirls are a valuable demographic, or something, but damn. STOP TURNING DW INTO A BAD FANFIC!!!
If you give them good writing the fangirls will learn to like it, and so will everyone else. If you cater to them, the fangirls will fawn over you for a time, and then get bored, and move onto the next thing leaving you with a ravaged hulk which no one else watches.
PULLS AT HAIR.
and donna is still romana
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Post by Kit on Jul 6, 2008 4:54:14 GMT
I've come to the conclusion that Rusty must die a slow and painful death. Slowly and painfully.
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Post by clocketpatch on Jul 6, 2008 5:02:18 GMT
My worst pain is that I predicted hand!baby Doctor. But I was hoping he'd be there for an actual purpose other than to kill off the Daleks (cause the real Doctor apparently can't do that since it will sully him or something) and then to suck face with Rose later.
Oh, and to facilitate the dumping of one of my favourite companions EVER
*angry noise*
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Post by clocketpatch on Jul 6, 2008 5:03:11 GMT
*Slowly rips Rusty's heart out with a spoon*
"Why a spoon?"
"BECAUSE IT WILL HURT MORE!!!!"
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Post by lynda on Jul 6, 2008 7:29:19 GMT
DONNA! NO!!!!!!!!! Also, that one-hearted guy. Growing old, spending his life with Rose. Ugh. This finale made me very, very angry. I trusted you, RTD. It was hard to do, but I really made an honest effort to put aside past disappointments and trust you to do the finale right this time. I defended you from others against my better judgment. And what do you do?!? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr, at least he's leaving. ...Ok, now I've got that out of my system. They showed Lynda and Jabe and Ursula and Rattigan and pretty much all the awesome people that died, which was really...well, not cool (in fact that part almost made me cry), but...fitting. I liked it. It would have been even better to show a little classic ( series five hint hint Moffat). DoctorDonna was totally so much more awesome than Bad Wolf Rose, wasn't she? Actually, now that I think of it, why couldn't the Doctor have kissed it out of her like he did with Rose? It'd make just as much sense as anything else in this finale and would have resulted in 100% more awesome Donna-ness. Why were the Daleks speaking German in Germany? That was kind of a lot of weird. Also, I feel a little ashamed to admit it but a part of me really wants to start shipping Jackie and Mickey.
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Post by ladydetemps on Jul 6, 2008 11:54:32 GMT
I was thinking more if they wen't to france it would be 'exterminate vu' (like the Bill Bailey sketch) uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DfMVFp-SAlQIt would have been the greatest episode apart from some things that really anoyed me: 1. the whole Rose getting a Docto thing. Ewwww...so didn't need that to hapen. 2. Doctor Donna having her memory wiped. That was so not fair! after all she'd done. I hope they find a way of bringing her back. 3. all the plotholes. thinks I thought were fab catherine tate..really good acting..loved the whole making the daleks look like thier dancing thing. lol! Super!temp Question: if the doctor sent the planets back to where they came from (aka the adipose planet) wouldn't that mean the 'partners in crime' would never have happened?
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Post by clocketpatch on Jul 6, 2008 18:41:33 GMT
if the doctor sent the planets back to where they came from (aka the adipose planet) wouldn't that mean the 'partners in crime' would never have happened? shhhh, don't question the plotholes. There are Daleks thereMy favourite plothole is, why the heck did Van Statten name his Dalek a Metaltron and not know what it was called? Were he - and his entire staff - scuba diving when the Earth was zapped across the universe and a bunch of Dalek killed bunches of people? In other news, I find it telling that even my rabid fangirl contacts are finding it hard to swallow the 'Rose gets a human Doctor of her very own' fix-it. And NO ONE liked the tongue kiss. Rusty, please take note.
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Post by clocketpatch on Jul 7, 2008 3:13:23 GMT
Haha, my room mate just came up with a solution which fixes everything:
She says, "I has the best idea for making the last episode better?"
I says, "it was pretty bad"
she says, "my idea is the awesome!"
I says, "what is it?"
she says, "Rusty should totally have turned the Doctor into a muppet."
O.o
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Post by Stripes on Jul 7, 2008 3:29:49 GMT
Nothing makes you guys happy huh? NOTHING. CAN YOU NOT SEE THE BRIGHT SIDE OF THE ENDING WITH ROSE???! SHE'S NOT COMING BACK. SHE GOT HER DOCTOR AND SHE WILL LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER. HER STORY IS OVER!! NO MORE ROSE!!! I dislike Rose, believe me.
I also think you guys need to stop comparing it to the classic. This is new who, take it as it is.
That or you guys just see the bad sides to the episodes.
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Post by Kit on Jul 7, 2008 3:34:13 GMT
If the Doctor had really regenerated, I may have forgiven everything (except the snog). I can ignore plotholes if I want to. But you don't mess with regeneration. The Doctor can't just die, start regenerating, suddenly decide that he doesn't want to change his face, and just stay the same. If he could, he'd've been Three for a loooong time. (Only 'cos One regenerated due to oldness, and Two was forced.)
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