lynda
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Post by lynda on Jan 5, 2009 2:53:06 GMT
* Ok, after the initial shock of finding out who it is, I'm actually kind of excited about this new guy. I spent a lot of the afternoon thinking about him and what kind of personality he would give 11, mostly based off this<- (this picture is a SPOILER) picture:
He looks very confident and sure of himself here; maybe even a little arrogant. This is someone that's going to have a lot of presence, never mind his age. Haughty. Yeah, haughty seems a good word to describe him. A more serious type, perhaps (no more bouncing around licking things and yelling allonz-y), which will help him to seem like the 1000+ year-old Time Lord he is, rather than a 26-year-old.
I really don't want him to be angsty or broody. I like angst quite a bit actually, call it a guilty pleasure of mine, but there's a time and a place for it, and the only Doctor that really had a good enough excuse to use it was Nine. So, yeah, he can be serious, haughty, even dark and manipulative like Seven, but I really don't want him to angst.
His hair. I don't really know about his hair. I'm not averse to him having long hair, but the emo hairstyle will draw attention to his youth (not to mention I personally dislike emo hair). I like his clothes, though, in that shot. He could wear that exact outfit and I'd be happy. It suits the character I'm building up in my mind for him.
Some other stuff: people on lj were saying he'd look good with a top hat and a monocle. I'm thinking I really don't like that idea; maybe it'd fit another Doctor, but not him. What do you guys think?*
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Post by primsong on Jan 5, 2009 2:57:51 GMT
*The hair is seriously bothering me - I sincerely hope they change it to something not so youth-faddish looking. I don't know if I'd go so far as tophats, but I admit I dearly love old-fashioned clothing for the Doctor and would cheer any return to the Edwardian look, I never cared for the modern look of Nine and Ten, alas... He's also quite skinny, but I guess everyone's gotten used to a skinny Doctor now. *shrugs*
Still, I'm trying to be hopeful, I really am... I just still hope he ages a lot over this next year...
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Post by clocketpatch on Jan 5, 2009 3:42:51 GMT
I've got over my OMG! HE'S SO YOUNG AND VAMPIRE LIKE! original hysteria. I've yet to give the Confidential a look through, but will do that at some point tomorrow (so long as I can find it). My room mate has decided that he looks slightly like Neil Patrick Harris. I don't quite see it myself, but any ounce of Doctor Horribleness has got to be a plus yes?
I don't see the top hat and monocle, well, maybe the monocle, but with both it would be more like he as playing dress up or something. I'm slowing warming to him though. Slowly. And I'm also constructing my own persona for him based on what I've seen and heard...
Just so long as he doesn't wallow in angst.
He can angst if he wants... but, only if it's good angst. Like the way Nine angsted, or even better, the way Three angsted.
I love Three's quiet angsting.
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evelyn
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Post by evelyn on Jan 5, 2009 5:54:14 GMT
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Post by clocketpatch on Jan 5, 2009 5:58:47 GMT
I edited your post so that the image wouldn't show up and spoil those of us who wish to stay in the dark about the 11th's appearance. Please give respect to other's spoiler wishes.
That icon made me lol so hard. *nods*
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Post by Starflower on Jan 5, 2009 6:10:55 GMT
*Too young. Just too young. One thing I like about all the other Doctors is their older and act younger. I don't care for the younger and act older thing. And his hair really needs to change. It's too.... unDoctorish. Looks nice on the guy but looks really just wrong for the Doctor. I'm kind of disapointed that David Morissey didn't get the part. =(
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Post by evelyn on Jan 5, 2009 6:16:48 GMT
I edited your post so that the image wouldn't show up and spoil those of us who wish to stay in the dark about the 11th's appearance. Please give respect to other's spoiler wishes. Sorry - my bad. Thanks for editing it for me.
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Post by merrythemad on Jan 5, 2009 15:03:20 GMT
*clears throat* * I stand firmly (albeit with shaking knees) on my refusal to let his age bother me. His hair is odd, but so was four's, so was ten's, so was six's, so was two's. I really think it's mostly just a bit of "culture" shock we are experiencing.
I agree he does seem to exude an arrogance, or perhaps a nonchalance we mistake for arrogance, idk, I'm not certain. I'm excited as well, perhaps because he wasn't one of the oft-mentioned names touted to be the Next Doctor (I really wasn't overly fond of any of the leaders).
All that aside though, I tell you! It's a ruse! A red herring! David Morissey is the next Doctor, this is an elaborate distraction. * I agree it seems a bit over the top (regarding the whiting out) but then I don't use the last fifty posts tool-thingy so I assume that's why, lol.
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Post by primsong on Jan 5, 2009 15:10:28 GMT
That icon is perfect - LOLOLOL! *watches it again*
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Post by clocketpatch on Jan 5, 2009 21:01:58 GMT
I agree it seems a bit over the top (regarding the whiting out) but then I don't use the last fifty posts tool-thingy so I assume that's why, lol. Aye, when you're using the last 50 tool you tend to read the posts from bottom to top and as consequence totally miss all spoiler warnings in the headers. Also, text you can skim over (though a word might leap out and stick toyour brain) but images are pretty unskimable, and once you've seen something there's no way to take that back.
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Post by jjpor on Jan 5, 2009 22:37:26 GMT
images are pretty unskimable, and once you've seen something there's no way to take that back. As I discovered to my cost with the 70s Pr0n Colin thread - many has been the long, sleepless night since that day when I fervently wished there was a way to take things like that back... More seriously, I appreciate the difficulties presented by this current turn of events, and I promise I will do my very utmost to try not to spoilerify (is that a word?) my fellow DbA denizens. * A certain swagger and self confidence, mayvbe a little arrogance, is a good thing I think; after all, he has every reason to be confident in his abilities - he is the Doctor, after all.
I don't know about top hat and monocle, that seems a little eccentric even for the Doctor. For some reason, I'm thinking about one of those stripy 1920s-style blazers (straw boater optional) - I don't know why, really. As long as he tames the hair, I'm sort of happy with anything he wants to wear. Not the outfit he was wearing in the promotional photos though; that was too much like a combination of Nine and Ten's looks. I want something different; maybe just a distinctive "style" rather than a single permanent costume; Three used to wear various different outfits, but they were all recognisably of a type.*
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Post by ladydetemps on Jan 6, 2009 16:26:24 GMT
*I think he should be a bit Dorian Grey from the League of extraordinary gentleman in his 'style'. Hm.....A frock coat maybe leather, a frilly shirt, jodpers and riding boots oh and maybe a silver topped cane..*
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lynda
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Post by lynda on Jan 6, 2009 19:09:28 GMT
*Ooh, Dorian Grey! I knew Matt was reminding me of someone, it was niggling around in the back of my mind, but I couldn't figure out who. I quite like the idea of him being like Dorian Grey - for those of you that don't know the story, he has a portrait of himself and he makes this sort of pact that the portrait will age and decay while he himself continues to look as young and innocent as he was the day it was painted. Except he becomes quite a nasty, vile character as the book progresses; none of that, please, Doctor.
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Post by teeceeoh on Jan 6, 2009 21:35:30 GMT
*He was in The Ruby in the Smoke, which was a period drama. I suppose he could wear something like he wore in that.
It seems the Doctor's got to have a catchphrase of sorts. I wonder what his could possibly be? Be interesting to see if we could think up ideas, and later see if we were anywhere near the mark.*
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Post by merrythemad on Jan 6, 2009 21:53:47 GMT
In regards to spoilers, I assumed it was something of the like and have been UBER careful since the day I accidentally spoiled some of you. *droops head again* Rereading that I became aware it could seem flippant and it was certainly not meant as such.
*I adore the idea of a twenties-style zoot-suit. A younger look for a younger Doctor, especially when you pair it with a dash of arrogance and a pinch of swagger. Now that's swoon-worthy. HAHAHA I'm kidding!
That being said, I also quite fancy the idea of a Dorian Grey-style Doctor, aside from the vile, evil, nasty bit. That having been said, we may well have to prepare ourselves for a vile, evil, nasty Doctor, after all the Valeyard is the penultimate incarnation of the Doctor, and that's Twelve, unless he thwarts that part of regeneration as we know it as well.
I still say we make Neil Gaiman save the Doctor! I also still insist this Matt bloke is a ruse, people! A clever bit of prestidigitation and nothing more. *nods**
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Post by jjpor on Jan 6, 2009 23:26:24 GMT
*I'm starting to suspect that this is all some sort of massive betting-fraud orchestrated by RTD and Moffat; the odds you would have got on this lad this time last week... Right now, they're rolling around in huge piles of money, drinking champagne out of shoes and lighting cigars with burning wads of twenties while laughing their proverbials off at the poor, stupid fans. Hmm, actually, don't they do that already? ;D
I'm sort of liking the idea of a Doctor in period attire; either the Victorian/Edwardian thing, or the 1920s thing would be great. I suspect it's not the route they'll go down. As to a catchphrase, I dunno; I'd like something quiet, confident but which leaves you in no doubt that this is not a man to be messed with.*
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Post by clocketpatch on Jan 7, 2009 3:40:57 GMT
* Hmm, you know, I don't always agree with what this guy says - his continued bad mouthing of Donna after she was excellent irks me. But is a well-written and well-informed blog (and it has the Seal of Rasillon). Anyway, I agree with his words on 11: beasthouse-lm2.blogspot.com/
I'm sure he'll try his best, and I hope I HOPE that he can be different and that he isn't shoe-horned into being Tennant v 1.3 because that would be tragic
As for his look. IMforeman mentioned elsewhere that he should have a spy-glass. I agree. Give him a random pirate theme.
Yarr!
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Post by Starflower on Jan 7, 2009 4:28:49 GMT
Sorry but I really don't agree with this. Matt Smith is too young, after Tennant, after Eccleston, after Hartnel, doesn't really make a difference to me. I thought Ten was too young but really he wasn't too young he just acted a bit... young. Matt just looks too young. WAY too young. I'm sure he could play the part but appearance is a large part of what the fans see in him. Fixing the hair would be nice but it won't really change his age. I never cared for the 'look younger act older' thing. Makes me think of teenagers in fantasy stories. XP The whole 'look older act younger' thing is wonderful, I think.
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Post by clocketpatch on Jan 7, 2009 4:50:58 GMT
Peter Davison was only 3 years older and I liked hm in the role; but Peter Davison looked older, or, at least had a sort of gravatis wherein you could believe he was an old man in a young man's body.
Maybe Matt will have that too? I still have to see that confidential special.
On a different note, as an anthropologist I find it fasinating how the show reflects current values, fashion trends, etc. Now, I didn't live through the sixties/seventies (duh) but I think those first Four were shaped quite a bit by the times. The actors for the first four had all lived through WWII. Pertwee had fought in it (and but for a fluke of fate probably would have died in it). There's also all the counter-culture stuff going around, though that seems to affect the companions more than the Doctor (though Four is definitely affected, and an effector...)
yes, I could witter on with my half-baked theories.
What I'm trying to say is - much as Tennant's angsting annoys me - maybe that's just the values of our time? And maybe, as much as Hartnell was supposed to be as far from sex symbol AS POSSIBLE (why was Susan his grand-daughter? why were Barbara and Ian a couple?; why, because it would have been scandalous for an older man to travel about with a single young female in a children's show! for shame!) maybe right now the Doctor needs to be a sex-symbol because...
I don't know. It's midnight, I'm tired and not making sense. I'll probably come back, read this in the morning and wonder what I was smoking when I posted...
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Post by Starflower on Jan 7, 2009 5:35:04 GMT
Three went around with Jo. Not saying he's really that old, in fact I don't really thin of him as old at all, I've run into a lot of people who think he's very old. One thing I didn't like about NuWho Series 2 was that it was all this romance stuff with Ten and Rose. I enjoyed it going back to just good old traveling with friends again. I think that the actor should be at least 30.
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