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Jamie
Apr 6, 2009 4:55:48 GMT
Post by primsong on Apr 6, 2009 4:55:48 GMT
I couldn't believe Jamie didn't have a thread of his very own. We must correct this, yes we must, for Jamie is uber wonderfulness in a kilt. He is. You know it. ;D What brought me looking for a thread for him was a walk Starflower and I took this afternoon - ambling along through nearby suburbia we heard a very distinct sound and sure enough there it was... a young man attempting to play the bagpipes! To his credit he managed to honk and squawk out something vaguely resembling a Christmas carol, then a series of notes that we think was the theme to Star Wars! Various neighbors, out washing cars and weeding in the brief sunshine we're having, called out encouraging words and we applauded, even though it was kind of awful. It being bagpipes, well - wasn't but a blink to be talking about Jamie! Also because we recently found a shop in the nearby mall is carrying kilts and my son wants one in good part because of the influence of a certain courageous and loyal Scot (he doesn't get one, as they're $300+ but still...) All that said, let the Jamie adulation commence - where would Two have ever been without his Jamie?
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Jamie
Apr 6, 2009 5:20:28 GMT
Post by clocketpatch on Apr 6, 2009 5:20:28 GMT
Two without Jamie...? These things don't bear thinking about! (though I did enjoy the recon of Power of the Daleks I stumbled across on youtube once... it wasn't really *Two* if you know what I mean? It was like he was waiting to be Two...)
Yes, Jamie. Jamie is the win. Two/Jamie is the OPT (whether you take that seriously, platonically, or all silly-like; there is no denial of the fact that they just go together) like salt and pepper.
Lol... it's odd though, because my first experience with Jamie was actually the fake Jamie in The Mind Robber. Talk about confusing!
If your son wants a kilt I suggest e-bay and second-hand stores. It's amazing how many people buy them, realise that they aren't never going to wear them, and then hastily try to dispose of the evidence.
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Jamie
Apr 6, 2009 7:09:19 GMT
Post by magnusgreel on Apr 6, 2009 7:09:19 GMT
I was in an elevator with Fraser Hines once after a costume competition, where a friend and I had just played duelling Bakers, me Tom, he Colin... FH denegrated my Tom costume, which he fully had a right to do. The only point of our being in the contest was to do our Duelling Bakers routine, a la "Duelling Brandos" on the original SNL... the costumes were fairly slapped-together, mine was anyway...
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Jamie
Apr 6, 2009 22:20:51 GMT
Post by jjpor on Apr 6, 2009 22:20:51 GMT
For many years, Frazer Hines was one of the stars of a British TV soap opera called Emmerdale Farm (still running today, but now it's called just Emmerdale, presumably because focus groups don't think farms are sexy) - the kind of thing I used to watch as a nipper (because those were the days just before telly splintered into demographic niches, when the family really did sit down together to watch rubbish like that). And I always kind of knew that he had once been in Doctor Who, because my aunty (who was a big Who fan going back to the 60s) used to say so whenever he came on screen. Anyway, to get to the point of my tale, when I saw the Two Doctors, on the occasion of its very first airing straight after Grandstand one Saturday afternoon, the most disturbing to me was not the Sontarans or the blood-licking-up thing, or the knifing, or Shockeye chowing down on a rat...it was the fact that "that's Joe Sugden out of Emmerdale Farm!!!"
And that is my own little Hines-related tale, such as it is. Just thought I'd share.
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Jamie
Apr 8, 2009 7:14:06 GMT
Post by magnusgreel on Apr 8, 2009 7:14:06 GMT
I have in fact portrayed Shockeye on videotape. And frankly, I think I nailed it. Well, not really.
So what did all the viewers think when they tuned into the sexier, more upmarketly-titled "Emmerdale" and found out it was still set on a farm?
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Jamie
Apr 8, 2009 20:30:21 GMT
Post by jjpor on Apr 8, 2009 20:30:21 GMT
Did you take a bite out of a rat? And if so, was it a fake rat or the genuine article? You can take that method acting thing too far, you know.
I think people were disappointed, to be honest, Magnus, to discover that the show still had this rural agricultural setting. So then, the producers decided to really mix things up by doing a story where a plane crashed on the village and killed about fifty percent of the characters. Jamie wasn't in it any more by then, I don't think, and he was probably glad that he wasn't...
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Jamie
Apr 22, 2009 4:28:35 GMT
Post by Starflower on Apr 22, 2009 4:28:35 GMT
Jamie/Two? 0_o I really never got that. I see them as very good friends. =) Well I also am never a slasher. Jamie/Victoria is my OTP for that era.
I saw this one fanfic that my mum found and it was really cute. After all the traveling around with the audio adventures, the Doctor left Jamie at Victoria's doorstep with a note saying to take care of him. ^_^
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Jamie
Oct 10, 2009 12:23:41 GMT
Post by Stacey on Oct 10, 2009 12:23:41 GMT
JAMIE!! I love Jamie!
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Jamie
Oct 29, 2009 16:18:07 GMT
Post by primsong on Oct 29, 2009 16:18:07 GMT
Stacey obviously knows what's Good when she sees it. ;-)
We all must write more Jamie-fic, there's not enough good 'in character' fic for him out there...
What are your thoughts on his education level?
I found him very clever and well-schooled in the sort of 'practical country education' that Real Life tends to bring, but I've seen fics where he is portrayed as a very slow bumpkin - as if he couldn't read because he'd flunked out with a dunce cap rather than because it just wasn't a practical skill when there was a war going on.
I personally dislike his being perceived as "slow" - he was anything but, in my opinion, and I don't think the Doctor would've had such a fondness for him if he were.
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Jamie
Oct 29, 2009 20:41:03 GMT
Post by johne on Oct 29, 2009 20:41:03 GMT
Stacey obviously knows what's Good when she sees it. ;-) We all must write more Jamie-fic, there's not enough good 'in character' fic for him out there... Jamie's in a fair bit of my fic, though enough of it's set Outside Continuity that it might well fail the test of being good and/or in character. Deliberately so in my only trip so far into the Mirrorverse, where his counterpart is a Glaswegian knife nut by the name of Hamish, working for Cap'n Jackson, Sometime Scourge of the Seven Seas
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Jamie
Oct 29, 2009 20:54:15 GMT
Post by johne on Oct 29, 2009 20:54:15 GMT
I found him very clever and well-schooled in the sort of 'practical country education' that Real Life tends to bring, but I've seen fics where he is portrayed as a very slow bumpkin - as if he couldn't read because he'd flunked out with a dunce cap rather than because it just wasn't a practical skill when there was a war going on. I personally dislike his being perceived as "slow" - he was anything but, in my opinion, and I don't think the Doctor would've had such a fondness for him if he were. To address this point more seriously: It's quite easy to characterise Jamie like that, because most of his surviving stories are from Season 6, when he was sharing a TARDIS with two geniuses. And I think this aspect of his character was played up deliberately from time to time. (Wendy Padbury remarks on the Seeds of Death commentary track, during the rocket-refuelling scene: "You seem particularly thick in this one, Frazer!") But in a serious story, yes, Jamie should be uneducated (more so in his earlier stories, obviously) rather than stupid. "Jamie's mind might have been untrained, but he was bright enough in his own way, especially where his own survival was at stake." -- The Krotons (novelisation), by Terrance Dicks.
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Jamie
Oct 30, 2009 19:45:55 GMT
Post by lostspook on Oct 30, 2009 19:45:55 GMT
Jamie's in a fair bit of my fic, though enough of it's set Outside Continuity that it might well fail the test of being good and/or in character. Deliberately so in my only trip so far into the Mirrorverse, where his counterpart is a Glaswegian knife nut by the name of Hamish, working for Cap'n Jackson, Sometime Scourge of the Seven Seas I think your TTR Jamie fic is pretty much in character. His own brand of cunning seems to fit, especially Macbeth. And who could not love the idea of 'Jamie's Angels''? I like Jamie very much and I don't think he's stupid, but at the same time I am slightly mystified by his status above all other Classic companions barring Sarah Jane. I mean, he's great fun, but better than Ian, Barbara, Ben, Polly, Vicki, Zoe, Harry, Leela, Romana, Tegan, Nyssa, Turlough, Ace, Charley? I'd have thought not. I just don't get it. Is it the kilt? Have I not seen the right episodes? (Of course, my very long voyage of rewatching DW means that it was about 18 months ago I left the War Games behind me, and I do tend to love what I'm watching bestest, but still.) I love him; he's a great compliment to Two, but is this down to longevity or something? Oh, I forgot Charley wasn't canon. Again...
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Oct 30, 2009 19:48:25 GMT
Post by lostspook on Oct 30, 2009 19:48:25 GMT
I forgot. I saw Fraser Hines in a play of Far From the Madding Crowd a few years ago (it had a McGann in it, but other than it obviously not being Paul, don't ask me which one). He was Farmer Boldwood. He was, obviously, the best thing in it! Talk about typecasting after Emmerdale... But that does make him the only DW actor I've ever seen in real life. It wasn't a big theatre, either.
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Jamie
Oct 31, 2009 12:53:41 GMT
Post by johne on Oct 31, 2009 12:53:41 GMT
I think your TTR Jamie fic is pretty much in character. His own brand of cunning seems to fit, especially Macbeth. And who could not love the idea of 'Jamie's Angels''? Well, if anyone else wants to put this to the test, I've finally managed to set up a proper fanfic masterlist. This should get you all my Jamie fic (except drabbles and ficlets; this includes them as well.) I think Doctor/Jamie shippers have something to do with that.
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Oct 31, 2009 15:37:41 GMT
Post by lostspook on Oct 31, 2009 15:37:41 GMT
Well, if anyone else wants to put this to the test, I've finally managed to set up a proper fanfic masterlist. This should get you all my Jamie fic (except drabbles and ficlets; this includes them as well.) I think Doctor/Jamie shippers have something to do with that. I should explain, just in case - gasp! - I came across as a Jamie hater (for shame, nothing could be further from the truth. I could watch him, Two and Zoe sit in a box or tidy the kitchen or just about anything and never be boried). It's this - DWM's Top ten companions result: 1. Sarah Jane (by a mile - she gets New and Classic votes) 2. Donna 3. Rose 4. Jamie 5. Martha 6. Ace 7. Leela 8. Jo Grant 9. Romana II 10. Tegan Now aside from the fact that there's no Ian and Barbara, I think that's a splendid list - but Jamie's position as the only old Who character to beat a New Who character surprised me. So, cheer you Jamie fans. And Donna is officially more awesome than Rose, which we all knew. And: cool, fanfic masterlist!
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Jamie
Mar 12, 2010 12:08:36 GMT
Post by Stacey on Mar 12, 2010 12:08:36 GMT
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Jamie
Mar 12, 2010 15:05:32 GMT
Post by Maggadin on Mar 12, 2010 15:05:32 GMT
Completely random and shallow note: Jamie is totally the hottest male companion ever! ;D Well, that's my opinion.
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Mar 13, 2010 9:50:53 GMT
Post by lostspook on Mar 13, 2010 9:50:53 GMT
Completely random and shallow note: Jamie is totally the hottest male companion ever! ;D Well, that's my opinion. I think there must be something wrong with me, because you're not alone there, and considering all the girls who went out with Frazer Hines at the time... But I just don't see it. I mean, sort of cute, but ...? Aw well, I've alwats known I was strange: when I started getting into DW, I had the books only and got a crush on Ian. :lol: (But Jamie is much fun with Two, and I like him, but, personally, I would rather take Harry, the Brigadier, Ben, erm, even Turlough or Steven. Actually, there isn't much choice here, is there? ;D Jamie's looks are improving, but you can have him, Maggadin. I won't come between you.) I admire his sandwich-eating skills!! ;D
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Jamie
Mar 18, 2010 23:07:51 GMT
Post by primsong on Mar 18, 2010 23:07:51 GMT
I find Jamie quite adorable, but part of that is just as much his loyalty, his honest friendship towards the Doctor and his attitude towards life in general as much as (or actually more than) his looks. And who wouldn't get a crush on Ian?? Ian was Action Man Super-Hero Teacher and completely awesome as well, though he might have been slightly improved by the occasional application of kilts in his various historic outfits.
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