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Post by merrythemad on Sept 21, 2010 13:39:04 GMT
there are more updates! they are filming Neil Gaiman's episode and the paparazzi found them (at last says me I want some goshdanged spoilers and THEY made me do it, I was totally anti-spoiler until The Great Nap Year). doctorwhospoilers.ueuo.com/wp/?p=854
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 21, 2010 20:40:38 GMT
* Yes, for that oldschool Who touch it should be entitled "The Little Boys of Death"! ;DHmph. Indeed. That absolutely embodies Classic Who titles.
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 21, 2010 20:44:22 GMT
RTD on Jo's return He explained: “We left her with the promise of happiness, of adventure, of love and joy, and you can’t undercut that by saying, ‘Oh, she’s a drug addict now! Her husband left her, she’s lonely, her life is bitter’. That’s just interfering with classic Doctor Who and what we were promised. So I was absolutely strict about that.”Oh, wow. I never thought I'd actually be pleased to hear something RTD said. What a surprise. That makes me very happy. Though I never had a problem with what he did with Sarah Jane. I thought it was rather in line with her character. Plus, it spawned SJA, which I actually love, so I can't knock it. = )
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Post by jjpor on Sept 21, 2010 21:55:04 GMT
I suppose a lot of good did come out of School Reunion (and on its own terms it's even a pretty decent story), but the whole story of post-Doctor SJ does, I think, go against the tone of their actual onscreen parting. So in that sense, his words about * Jo*, while welcome, do show a bit of a cheek (and I know he didn't actually have his name on School Reunion, but it nevertheless had his Ten/Rose-shipping fingerprints all over it). * It's hard to see how he'd include a random Ianto ref without it being exactly the sort of angst-bait he's talking about - "yes, I had a son. He got pointlessly killed failing to foil that alien invasion last year..." ;D*
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Post by jjpor on Sept 21, 2010 21:58:13 GMT
there are more updates! they are filming Neil Gaiman's episode and the paparazzi found them (at last says me I want some goshdanged spoilers and THEY made me do it, I was totally anti-spoiler until The Great Nap Year). doctorwhospoilers.ueuo.com/wp/?p=854I loved that those people posting on there seemed to have been party to all sorts of rumours and spoilers that I've never heard of - * Fangs and contact lenses? T-mat beam?! Alien fungus pods??!! And Eleven now has a polka-dot waistcoat???!!! Cool! ;D*
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 21, 2010 23:42:54 GMT
I don't know. I think post-Doctor SJ made a lot of sense. She seemed more like the type of Companion to be really caught up in all the traveling and adventuring. With it gone, she'd miss it and want to recapture it. I don't think just being a normal reporter would be enough for Sarah Jane after traveling with The Doctor. I always got the impression she regretted leaving, like Tegan. Of course, she had to leave, but I think the Doctor might have come back for her if not for that speech she'd earlier given about wanting to go home. I always figured he had heard her and was reacting to that, none some need to not see her grow old, which I did think was silly.
Of course, in my head she always went back and married Harry. = ) But that's just my fanish love.
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Post by clocketpatch on Sept 22, 2010 2:35:56 GMT
there are more updates! they are filming Neil Gaiman's episode and the paparazzi found them (at last says me I want some goshdanged spoilers and THEY made me do it, I was totally anti-spoiler until The Great Nap Year). doctorwhospoilers.ueuo.com/wp/?p=854D'Awww, if I'm reading that right, one of the crew members phoned up to get Matt on set faster so the little kids who'd lined up could see him before they went to bed. Cutest thing ever.
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Post by merrythemad on Sept 22, 2010 12:50:46 GMT
I know, all reports say how fabulous the crew has been, giving the stalkers coffee and blankets even when it got chilly! A lot of those same stalkers felt so indebted to the kind crew they refused to post the dialogue they heard, feeling it a betrayal of the crew's kindness, whovians FTW
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Post by lostspook on Sept 22, 2010 16:19:46 GMT
Of course, in my head she always went back and married Harry. = ) But that's just my fanish love. That's the one shame about SJA... it kind of doesn't look good for Harry, anyway you care to take it.
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Post by lostspook on Sept 22, 2010 16:28:08 GMT
RTD on Jo's return He explained: “We left her with the promise of happiness, of adventure, of love and joy, and you can’t undercut that by saying, ‘Oh, she’s a drug addict now! Her husband left her, she’s lonely, her life is bitter’. That’s just interfering with classic Doctor Who and what we were promised. So I was absolutely strict about that.”Oh, wow. I never thought I'd actually be pleased to hear something RTD said. What a surprise. That makes me very happy. ;D Me, too - I've been dreading having to make divorced Jo official canon... O already have to cope with official say so that sarah didn't marry Harry, darn it. I don't care what anyone says, (even if they're Katy Manning), Jo/Cliff is lovely and random and ridiculous, and why shouldn't Jo have adventures up the Amazon and find world saving toadstools? It sounds exactly the sort of thing that girl would do... ;D (I think it's cos the only Three story I had on video, off the TV, and minus ep 2, for ages was The Green Death, so Cliff has merged into being a semi-official UNIT character in my head. And no one can deliver a maggot related line with quite the same style... :lol:)
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Post by merrythemad on Sept 22, 2010 17:29:33 GMT
doctorwhospoilers.ueuo.com/wp/?p=1095they aren't really spoilers and there ARE more bits on twitter but nothing really useful as yet, the one above though hopefully will ease some minds.
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Post by jjpor on Sept 22, 2010 18:20:45 GMT
Hmm...Moffat, you tinker. We will see... Some pics from livejournal: community.livejournal.com/doctorwho/6792765.html* I see no polka-dot waistcoat!* Agreed with RTP and lost on Sarah/Harry... I still like to believe something happened and it was epic, even if they didn't marry, but yeah...doesn't look good for Harry longterm, does it? And I do hope they give Cliff a mention, just a throwaway naming or something. SJA are usually pretty good with the little bits of fanw*nk, actually, but I still haven't forgiven them for having a whole story about the Mona Lisa without directly referencing City of Death even once... ;D
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 22, 2010 21:19:32 GMT
Yeah, but at least the books give Harry a lot of cool stuff, like working as a Secret Agent and even traveling with Six, which is an awesome team up. But in my mind, he'll always be with Sarah too. As for Cliff, I hate him, so I'm not hoping he comes back. I can't help it. That episode is the only one I've only watched once (of Classic Who) and I don't have much love for it. It was not a bad episode and had a bunch of cuteness going on, but Jo leaving the Doc like that, randomly for some weird guy, just ticked me off. No one would pick some annoying kid over the Doctor. (Sorry, I'm very anti-Cliff. It makes me rant-prone... But I'll just stop now. = ) )) Besides, I always had more of a liking for Jo/Peladon. 'Cause I'm a freak like that. And because he was Patrick Troughton's son! = ) I love SJA for their many references.
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Post by merrythemad on Sept 23, 2010 13:56:07 GMT
YAY! BIG BIG Hints at the link. From Moffat, and obviously Den of Geek www.denofgeek.com/television/608419/steven_moffat_drops_big_hints_for_doctor_who_series_6.html** *meep* oh gosh, oh gosh oh gosh, are we already going to lose our happy nearly kinda balanced Doctor. I've heard people say River is Amy and the supposed line of dialogue "A river begins life as a pond" but I never gave it much credit, I sincerely hope that is not where they are going though I cannot say for certain why...what does poor Rory do? (the Rory stumbles to the edge of a tragic mistake)I really don't like the idea of River being Jenny, because it's just creepy. Amy Pond as River and the Doctor's daughter...they'd never do it but it's mildly entertaining to imagine the fandom reaction (hahaha) "The frankly appalling revelation concerning the one person in the universe the Doctor trusts the most" (boy does that one frighten me) but who would that be? He does say in the Universe, so I'm hoping they don't do something ridiculously easy and make it Amy out of thin air. He's known Sarah Jane longer...what about Handy? I keep thinking the only person he really trusts has to be himself, who else is left? Romana? how the heck does all this happen in six weeks? MEEP! **
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 23, 2010 15:55:22 GMT
YAY! BIG BIG Hints at the link. From Moffat, and obviously Den of Geek www.denofgeek.com/television/608419/steven_moffat_drops_big_hints_for_doctor_who_series_6.html** *meep* oh gosh, oh gosh oh gosh, are we already going to lose our happy nearly kinda balanced Doctor. I've heard people say River is Amy and the supposed line of dialogue "A river begins life as a pond" but I never gave it much credit, I sincerely hope that is not where they are going though I cannot say for certain why...what does poor Rory do? (the Rory stumbles to the edge of a tragic mistake)I really don't like the idea of River being Jenny, because it's just creepy. Amy Pond as River and the Doctor's daughter...they'd never do it but it's mildly entertaining to imagine the fandom reaction (hahaha) "The frankly appalling revelation concerning the one person in the universe the Doctor trusts the most" (boy does that one frighten me) but who would that be? He does say in the Universe, so I'm hoping they don't do something ridiculously easy and make it Amy out of thin air. He's known Sarah Jane longer...what about Handy? I keep thinking the only person he really trusts has to be himself, who else is left? Romana? how the heck does all this happen in six weeks? MEEP! ** Hmm. River as Amy? It's interesting purely on a 'I didn't expect that at all' point, but I don't really like it either. And, like you, I really can't say why. It just seems like a bit of a let down after all the build up. It would be surprising, but not cool enough for all they've hyped it up. I don't find this idea very likely, though, just because of all the interactions between River and Amy. Unless River doesn't remember she's Amy, then I didn't see any indication that she was Amy when they met. I think there would have been some look, if only a slight one. Just some 'oh, that's weird' moment.
River as Jenny would be another one that was interesting purely on shock factor. But wasn't Jenny RTD's character? If so, I don't see The Moff bringing her back in, especially not as one of his own characters.
Oh, my Rassilon, that sounds really awful. (In reference to the 'Doctor trust most in the universe' comment.) I just know it's going to be someone stupid like Amy or River or (Rassilon please no) Rose. And not someone that he actually trust most, like Romana, Susan, Sarah Jane or, hey, K-9 (that's the one little dude who'd never, ever turn on him, ya know? = ) )
But, hey, maybe I'm just being paranoid and it will turn out to be awesome. Maybe it is Romana or Susan. That would make my day. Or, hey, but it is himself and we're leading up to a Multi-Doctor story? I mean, the 50th year anniversary is right around the corner. (A guy can hope, can't he?)
((Oh, Rassilon. You know, I just though, what if it's Jo? I mean, that crossover story is coming? I don't want an 'appalling' revelation about her, of all people. But no, wait, these are spoilers for Series 6 not SJA, so we should be good. *Sighs in relief.*))
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 23, 2010 18:11:00 GMT
Oh, crazy thought. If River is Amy, could Rory be the 'great man' that she kills? Food for thought. It could fit.
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Post by jjpor on Sept 23, 2010 19:19:51 GMT
Oh, crazy thought. If River is Amy, could Rory be the 'great man' that she kills? Food for thought. It could fit. You could be onto something with that, you know... I hope not, but...yeah... I tend to take the view that these sorts of "revelations" from showrunners tend not to be as straightforward as they look - they're more or less designed to stir up wild speculation and guessing - and they work! Which is good, because I enjoy wild speculation and guessing, although I try not to let it scare me too much. We can all put the boot into Moffat after he's wrecked our show (kidding!), but no point in fretting about it now... ;D
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Post by clocketpatch on Sept 24, 2010 0:08:34 GMT
Oh, crazy thought. If River is Amy, could Rory be the 'great man' that she kills? Food for thought. It could fit. You know, I've been saying that for awhile now... I love the crew for giving blankets; I love the fans for repaying the generousity. I don't even care that there's no set pictures - that's just awesome.
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 24, 2010 4:45:54 GMT
Oh, I don't tend to fret about this show. I'm used to taking whatever I want from the new series, adding it my canon, and chucking what I don't want. I mean, it's Doctor Who. I'm pretty accustomed to just making up what I want and ignoring what I don't like. At least with the new series. I just like freak out trying to figure all this stuff out before it happens.
I don't doubt that Moffat is pulling something on us. He's a genius about this kind of thing. But 'a river begins life as a pond' is the most epic little releases tidbit I've ever heard. True or not, it just sounds really cool in the context of 'could it be?' Where that line come from anyway?
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Post by merrythemad on Sept 24, 2010 13:06:18 GMT
RtP, it was on a spoiler site before The Big Bang was aired. Now, before you get all glum thinking it means it must be false, previously, there have been spoilers released well before their proper time (for instance much of what actually DID happen in EoT1&2 had been released as spoilers for JE, on the same site, I will see if I can find it, I have, in fact, left it out of my bookmarks because it is quite often accidentally true (just out of order, perhaps the Doctor or River run it?) If I do find the site, I will link back for you. JJ, I will say none of these are really revelations just teasers, and Moffat is good with words so he can say something that while technically true is a patented misdirection. I have a link with more info, it's from Io9 again, so I'll just copy n paste. here is the link, if you wanna see the pics as well, it's about midway down the page io9.com/5645618/black-widow-could-get-her-own-avengers-spin+off-plus-why-the-wachowskis-iraq-war-romance-is-also-science-fictionHere there be spoilers** octor Who:
Steven Moffat supposedly said some rather interesting things in the new Doctor Who Magazine, but we haven't seen a physical copy, and honestly we're not quite sure if we believe it. It just seems so... strange. Check out the quote, most of which is probably discussing the standalone episodes:
So what can I tell you about next series? The startling truth about Idris' new soul – even the Doctor doesn't believe her! The frankly appalling revelation concerning the one person in the universe the Doctor trusts the most? Would you like to peek inside a cupboard that will chill your blood, or meet a workforce that will haunt your dreams? Have you ever wondered about Apollo Ten and a half? And have you already guessed that River Song is...
And then this on the mid-series cliffhanger:
The calamitous and frankly shocking events at the climax of Episode 7 will still be ringing in your ears when Doctor Who returns in the Autumn for a futher six episodes. Oh, yes, feel our cruelty – you will see the Doctor's life change forever, you will gasp in astonishment at the true nature of his relationship with Amy Pond, and you will cry out in horror as Rory Williams stumbles to the brink of a tragic mistake...
In all likelihood, this is all legit, but it seems just weird enough for me to take the unusual step of asking for additional confirmation. If any of you lovely people are readers of the magazine and can confirm or deny the authenticity of these quotes, please email me at alasdair@io9.com. Thanks! [Doctor Who Spoilers] ** DO I worry, sure I do, I'm a capricorn, you lot remember me between EoT and 11th Hour, yeah? Worrying is something I do the way other people breathe. In fact, one of my favourite things about Doctor Who is it allows me to still use all that energy up worrying but all those worries are a bit meaningless in the eternal scheme of things. Worrier-fix filled and no real danger ahead! Plus, I'm a HUGE fan of wild speculation, so any thoughts?
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