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Post by librarylover on Jul 26, 2009 12:59:39 GMT
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Post by Stripes on Jul 26, 2009 14:16:12 GMT
Although it'll probably never happen I'd love to see the Welsh series do an episode sort of like DS9's "Trials and Tribble-ations" where the new Doctor is having an adventure...and in the background running around are perhaps one or two other Doctors having their own completely independant adventures. No crossover, no implicit mention. He's just everywhere doing whatever he happened to have been doing at the time.
I like that idea. I want it.
Oh, and what's cannon whats not, I don't care.
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Post by merrythemad on Jul 26, 2009 17:44:49 GMT
oh, goodness all fiction ever created lol that's fantastic, LL.
Newton, I think that would be the most wonderful episode ever, I too like, i too want
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Post by clocketpatch on Jul 26, 2009 18:01:38 GMT
The only time (I like to think) I got overly hung up over it was when Ten did his hand transfer regeneration thingy in JE...
but now I've mostly got over that.
Great essay. I've always had some nagging belief in the pantheistic solipsism and the lack o' canon in Doctor Who is part of what makes it so absolutely charming. And then on top of that there's fanfic, and those unbound audios, random dreams where Ace!Cat has sword fights... (had another of those last night, except I was Jack and I was trying to climb through my own kitchen window, but not succeeding, and nine was laughing at me...)
Anyways, yes, and all are real in their own way. I like the exercise of constant doublethink that goes with Doctor Who: holding two (or more) true but contradictory ideas at once. It really stretches the grey matter if nothing else.
My room ate however, who I've succeeded in getting slightly into Who will never take the full geekdom plunge because she loves canon and she can't get her mind around Who's lack of it. In her words: "Either there's too much and I'll never be able to fully understand what's going on, or there's none at all and I'm not sure I can accept that."
Then I told her "wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey", "Time War did it", "Temporal anomaly did it" and "All plot holes are caused by Daleks".
She smacked me. I probably deserved it. LOL
and an episode with two version of the same Doctor running around in different timestreams accidentally thwarting each other sounds AWESOME. It also sounds like something Moffat would do. *hopes*
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Post by jjpor on Jul 26, 2009 20:33:43 GMT
Yeah, good essay - love the opening line!
I mean, I've played the "x really happened but y didn't happened because y's a rubbish story and I think z's version is better anyway" game - who hasn't? This does make some excellent points, though, not least that for there to be a "canon" there has to be someone with the authority to define one, and in the case of Doctor Who, the work of so many hands over so many years, there is nobody in that position. And nobody with the right, I'd argue.
The only people who conceivably did have the right were the people who created it for the BBC back in 1963, and they just didn't care - that wasn't the way things worked in those days, as the article points out. And I'd argue that whether RTD or Moffat or anybody else in modern Who wanted to define a cast-iron canon or not, for them even to attempt to do so would be presumptuous in the extreme.
It is one of the great things about Doctor Who - so much of its backstory is shrouded in mystery, even now - we don't know the main character's real name, his family background any of that. All we have are hints, and that adds so much richness to it, imo. And what explanations have been provided, in the novels etc. you can take or leave depending on your inclination (or even make up your own, if you're a fanficcer); there's something great about that, about not having that sort of thing dictated from above.
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