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Post by Stripes on Feb 5, 2009 16:55:02 GMT
I am taking Writers Craft at school, first class was on Monday. My teacher was giving an over view of the course. Our final project we are allowed to do what ever we wish.
She listed some examples: Children book, Graphic novel, Short story, a poem, and fan fiction.
Personally I don't think fan fiction should be part of this course. That is just me.
Anyway, I thought you guys would enjoy reading about a teacher who allowed fan fiction. I am sure JJpors Time War Story would get an A+.
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Post by merrythemad on Feb 5, 2009 19:30:11 GMT
Fan fiction is really just using someone else's characters and telling your own story, Newton, why do you think it should not allowed? ((I am not asking to be rude, I am just curious))
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Post by IMForeman on Feb 5, 2009 20:14:24 GMT
I mostly like fanfiction, but the idea of it having academic value is strange. I feel like fandom things should be kept separate from the real world. But it still sounds like a fun course.
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Post by Stripes on Feb 6, 2009 0:53:44 GMT
Fan fiction is really just using someone else's characters and telling your own story, Newton, why do you think it should not allowed? ((I am not asking to be rude, I am just curious)) That is why I don't think fan fiction should be part of the course. The course is about creating your own work. Writing a fan fiction is sort of unfair since it is our final project and worth a lot. I am planning on making a short graphic novel for my final project. I have to make up my own storyline, characters, their development and all that jazz. While someone who picks fan fiction pretty much has ever thing done for them. They are in a way doing alot less work than someone who is doing a children's book or short story. I am not really a fan fiction person but people enjoy it. Fine. Do it in your free time. I do not want it in a classroom. |
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Post by magnusgreel on Feb 6, 2009 1:30:44 GMT
Writing is writing. Why would there be a special category for fanfic, except as candy to draw in TV-obsessed students? It seems like what they do to draw students into classical music, putting on choral or orchestral performances of pop songs, that kind of thing.
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Post by Stripes on Feb 6, 2009 2:05:33 GMT
Writing is writing. Why would there be a special category for fanfic, except as candy to draw in TV-obsessed students? It seems like what they do to draw students into classical music, putting on choral or orchestral performances of pop songs, that kind of thing. I can see fan fiction being a good practice on writing. But these books/TV shows/movies that people are writing about were created by someone. Someone who took the same courses and worked hard on creating their own original work. For someone to take all that hard work and go "hey lets have these guys go to New York City!" and get a nice A+ is well ... I can't think of the word but it isn't really fair. Like I said before this course is about creating your own work not taking someone else's. |
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Post by clocketpatch on Feb 6, 2009 3:55:08 GMT
I mostly like fanfiction, but the idea of it having academic value is strange. "Romeo and Juliet belongs to a tradition of tragic romances stretching back to antiquity. Its plot is based on an Italian tale, translated into verse as The Tragical History of Romeus and Juliet by Arthur Brooke in 1562, and retold in prose in Palace of Pleasure by William Painter in 1582. Shakespeare borrowed heavily from both, but developed supporting characters, particularly Mercutio and Paris, in order to expand the plot." -Wiki (confirmed by my own research) 'Nuff said. Anyway, some fic is absolute sludge; like, the stuff you find growing beneath your tub when you don't clean it enough. BUT then you've got it nuzzling up against stuff like JJpor's Time War epic, Prim's Three novels, and several other fic epics like "In Human Hands" by Rallalon, and that Year That Wasn't Fic by Versaphile which is well over 400 pages now (and really good, though I've been skipping the chapters with warnings on them). Anyway, I write original and I write fic, and in the end I'm proud of it all. The only difference is that I can hope to maybe get paid for my original (so I tend to put more work into it) but some stuff is just really, really good. Personally, I like writing fic for the feedback, and also because I'm good at coming up with plots and locations but rubbish at character development (yeah, lazy way out I know). But not everyone writing fic is as lazy as me; for example www.whofic.com/viewstory.php?sid=16555 <- I read this one off of Calufrax the other day and I HIGHLY recommend it to all. Those OCs are published novel worthy. Anyway, to finish, I spent a good portion of my life looking down on fic in rather the same way you do now Newton. I thought the writers were lazy and further more I thought that the ones who weren't lazy should be better spending their time creating original fiction, but then I sort of stumbled, reluctantly, into th fic world, did a bit of research, and found a very cool sub-culture. If that's not your thing that's cool too (and I don't think anyone writing an 'OMG and so these 2 are OTP suolmates! & r gonna B 2gethr 4 ALWAYS & this is my OC named MArySue!!' type story deserves an A+... whether they be writing fic, original, or whatever). Also, you're doing a graphic novel? I am impressed by your ambition and probable skills. I'm such crap at story-boarding it's not even funny. Good luck! Writer's craft was my favourite course in highschool (and we weren't allowed fic in my class) |
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Post by Stripes on Feb 10, 2009 2:04:39 GMT
In class today we were asked questions about our writing. One question was something the along the lines of "Do you show your work to people?"
Many people said no. We were talking about why we don't show our work yadda yadda yadda when I said this to the class. "I do not like fan fiction, however I do admire these people who post their work online for millions to read. There are people out there who will say nasty things about ones work. Yet they post it which is very brave."
I am a wimp at showing any of my work to people. Even essays for class. I need someone to edit my work and I uhh, cring? (sp?) when ever someone reads my work. The worse is when they read it out load.
Newton
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Post by clocketpatch on Feb 10, 2009 2:31:01 GMT
I HATE it when people read my work out loud. Whenever my room mates are editing an essay for me I make sure to read the room. Online is okay though, I guess, because you aren't *real* people lol, just figments of my imagination...
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Post by Stripes on Feb 10, 2009 2:33:06 GMT
I HATE it when people read my work out loud. Whenever my room mates are editing an essay for me I make sure to read the room. Online is okay though, I guess, because you aren't *real* people lol, just figments of my imagination... I am not real? I feel real. Oh no. This isn't good. I have been living a lie. |
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Post by magnusgreel on Feb 10, 2009 2:38:55 GMT
Someone let me in on the fact that I don't exist last Tuesday. It's a difficult adjustment, I must say.
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Post by jjpor on Feb 10, 2009 20:01:21 GMT
There was some scientist/mathematician who wrote a paper a couple of years ago arguing that, statistically, we're far more likely to be part of an incredibly sophisticated future computer simulation than "real people" living in the "real universe"... I forget what his precise reasoning was, but it may well have involved magic mushrooms.
I find that the only thing worse than listening to somebody else reading out something you've written is having to read it out yourself.
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Post by Stripes on Feb 10, 2009 20:54:51 GMT
There was some scientist/mathematician who wrote a paper a couple of years ago arguing that, statistically, we're far more likely to be part of an incredibly sophisticated future computer simulation than "real people" living in the "real universe"... I forget what his precise reasoning was, but it may well have involved magic mushrooms. I find that the only thing worse than listening to somebody else reading out something you've written is having to read it out yourself. Reading out my own work doesn't bother me at all. |
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Post by Stripes on May 14, 2009 22:55:20 GMT
Update: I am still doing the comic.
I am going to say this. after some thought I come to the collusion that fan fiction has some good things.
It is a good way for people to practice their witting. Learn how to past their story line. Writing fan fiction is a good way to practices on how you describe events, to learn new words and expressions. Than again, if you wrote you own work, you will be practicing the same. I guess fan fiction is a easier practice because you don't have to think about character development etc.
I still don't like fan fiction and I still won't take part in it. I am seeing it in a lighter note.
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