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Post by ulalume42 on Aug 31, 2009 15:24:37 GMT
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Post by clocketpatch on Aug 31, 2009 22:08:28 GMT
Right, so the WWII Daleks asking for a cuppa? Awesome personified.
The clip of Matt Smith being angry? Made me cringe slightly. I'm really, really, really hoping his Doctor doesn't sound like that every time he gets shouty. Otherwise I'll just spend the climax of every episode cracking up and trying not to laugh: You are the Daaaaalecks!
*giggles*
Okay, no, really, I am excited. Daleks pretending to be nice? Don't trust 'em for a moment!
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Post by jjpor on Aug 31, 2009 22:19:28 GMT
*My word, I'm looking forward to this story already! Daleks! Making Tea! While pretending to help Winston Churchill! Win World War 2!! The only thing that concerns me is that it's said to be written by Mark Gatiss. Don't get me wrong, I think Mark Gatiss is a great writer and performer - I love his NA novel Nightshade, I love his work in The League of Gentleman...but *cough*Idiot's Lantern*cough*...
I don't think you can really judge Matt Smith on one line-reading (although it was a bit reminiscent of shouty McCoy - whether that's a good thing or not I leave up to you ;D), but I see the knives are already out for him in some of the comments "It's not Eccleston or Tennant" etc etc. You've gotta LOL, haven't you? You'd probably cry otherwise...*
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Post by clocketpatch on Aug 31, 2009 22:26:34 GMT
Aitch no, I want to see him. And he's NOT Tennant or Eccleston (I'd be angry if he was). he's ELEVEN! And he has a BOWTIE! And if he wants to go a bit shouty I'll forgive him it. As you say, it worked for McCoy. And I don't think you take line reading completely seriously anyways... (thinks, I don't know, 'cause, I'm not, like, a professional actor or anything, though, wouldn't that be fun...)
I am wondering how sound bits from a line reading got leaked, because that seems like something that would be done a bit further away from errant fans and their cell phone recording capabilities, unless it was an inside job...?
In any case, it's good to see the demented little pepper pots are returning (they're like cockroaches they are...)
Also, seriously, am I the ONLY person on this forum who likes Idiot's Lantern? Okay, the boy's random speech about being able to love who you like is a bit... something, and Ten and Rose are a bit... something. But Moped! Belgium! Rubber soles!
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Post by Maggadin on Aug 31, 2009 23:24:54 GMT
* I do hope the episode isn't going to be contribute to the deification of Churchill.*  |
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Post by jjpor on Sept 1, 2009 21:22:59 GMT
*Well, I kind of doubt that it will challenge the general pop-culture perception of Churchill=good guy (and don't mention any of that, you know, other stuff he did between being born and finding himself Prime Minister because nobody else wanted the job); we're in the entertainment business, after all! ;D
Heheh, Clocket, we shall agree to disagree about Idiot's Lantern! You identify its good points and its major weaknesses *cough*Ten/Rose*cough* pretty well. I thought the faceless people were kind of creepy, if that helps. ;D
I'm not jumping to conclusions on Smith - I don't honestly expect to have a firm opinion on Eleven until I've seen all of Season 5, and maybe not even then. Nine, for instance, continues to grow in stature every time I rewatch one of his stories. I guess if he really is either appallingly bad or astonishingly good, I might notice straight away, but I expect the jeering and catcalling from the hardcore Tennant brigade to be deafening.*
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Post by magnusgreel on Sept 14, 2009 13:31:07 GMT
* I do hope the episode isn't going to be contribute to the deification of Churchill.* I remember getting up very, very early to watch his funeral. It wasn't that I had personal opinions on him as a child, but up until a certain point leaders are great because the big people say so. Still I have no conflicting data except that he was probably hard to get along with and was voted out right after the war. I'm OT, but I have no Eleven words to offer, and I'm miserable and am looking for a little interaction before trying once again to force sleep. |
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Post by jjpor on Sept 14, 2009 22:00:30 GMT
*Well, he didn't have much time for Indians, Gandhi in particular. Or for the Irish, come to think of it. Or for poor people, for that matter. Suggested that the Navy should shell Liverpool during the General Strike.
Having said all of that, in the summer of 1940 he was the right man for the job; just about the only politician in a position to become Prime Minister at that time who had the sheer war-mongering bloody-mindedness not to give in at a point in the war when giving in looked pretty much like the best bet. For that, Britain, Europe and indeed the world should, I would argue, be a little bit grateful to him, because, you know, the alternatives don't really bear thinking about.
Too bad, of course, if you happened to be one of the many, many British and allied servicemen who lost their lives in both world wars thanks to his attempts to stick his oar into military planning, one of the victims of the 1943 Indian famine, or indeed one of the many millions of Eastern Europeans who he basically sold down the river in his negotiations with Stalin, but other than that sort of unfortunate thing, top bloke.*
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