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Post by hangingfire on Aug 24, 2009 22:25:40 GMT
*waves*
Like several others I see in the Intro forum here, I also found out about this place by way of JJPOR and cake.
I've been a science fiction nerd since I was four and asked for a Star Wars Death Star playset for Christmas, and a fan of Doctor Who from the moment I saw "The Curse of Peladon" on my local PBS station in nineteen-eighty-something. I wrote my first fanfic around that time, though of course 1. there were no internets (thank god) and 2. I didn't even know it was called that and 3. no one will ever see it, thank you very much. A few years ago, I started watching the new series when it finally got broadcast in the US, and now I'm back in fandom again, enjoying the new series and rediscovering the classic.
And hopefully I'm a better writer of fic than I was at twelve.
Anyway, nice to meet you all!
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Post by librarylover on Aug 24, 2009 23:07:07 GMT
Welcome to the best little Doctor Who forum on the web! You don't have to get involved in conversations about cake and naked Doctors to hang out here, but it helps!  I started watching with NuWho, and I'm still working on Classic Who. I like all the doctors, but Ten, Nine and Four are my favorites, at least today. I hope you can join us for Doctor Who Live some Saturday night. You can find the details in the Announcements area each week. |
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Post by clocketpatch on Aug 24, 2009 23:19:20 GMT
Hullo Hangingfire! I see JJ wrangled in another one. I'm beginning to wonder if he didn't bake some sort of hypnotic agent into that cake... (you can never trust a man with the Master for his user pic, and that's a fact!)
I'm Clocket. I maybe, sort of, made the typo that originated this whole Chained to Three Ten!cake craze thing, though really it was a group effort, no denying that. We aren't that crazy all the time, really, I swear... why don't you believe me?!?!
I like Nine and Seven and Three and all of them. I've been known to be hard on Ten by times but recently he's been growing on me. like fungus, or something. It's probably impossible to take a concentrated dose of Tennant without coming away with some sort of response... Currently the response is: mmmm.
Anyways, before that conversation goes to awkward fangirl places... welcome! As LL says this may well be the best little DW forum on the interwebs, nice and close without being cliche-y, with a good mash of member spanning all the major demographics geography, age, and favourite Doctor wise.
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Post by hangingfire on Aug 25, 2009 0:14:32 GMT
librarylover: thanks! The live thing sounds like a lot of fun, and I'll definitely have to join in if my schedule permits. @clocket: I've seen your fic around and really enjoyed it.  I've been looking for a comfortable DW fan forum for a while now, and I like the look of this one. I may drag another friend of mine (who I got hooked on DW last year, and who I think has now seen more Classic than I have) over here before too long. Oh, also: I knit stuff, and have a couple of Who-related projects in the works. So, hi to any other Who knitters/crafters out there, too.
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Post by Stripes on Aug 25, 2009 1:43:40 GMT
Wow, who would have known a Naked Ten covered in cake fan fic would bring so many who fans together.  |
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Post by jjpor on Aug 25, 2009 20:19:59 GMT
Welcome! The power of the cake continues to draw people in, like moths to a...a cake, really.
Well, I've been watching Doctor Who since I was but a wee'un - one of the better things about living in the UK in the 80s, I guess. I forget sometimes how difficult it must have been for people outside of the UK to see it in those days. I remain a bigtime Seven and Ace admirer, it being sort of "my era" of Who; started watching the new series when it started simply because, well, it was Doctor Who - I don't think there was any question of me not watching it. I like some things about new Who, dislike other things, hope for a new dawn under Eleven and Moffat - we shall see. Generally think Nine and Ten have been two good Doctors, but that Ten in particular has been let down by some of the things the scripts and the things they make him do.
And, er, I suppose welcome again; I hope you enjoy yourself here and I'm sure that everybody will make you feel at home. ;D
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Post by hangingfire on Aug 25, 2009 20:32:25 GMT
Or like engineers to a cake, if my workplace is any indication. I got an amusing reminder yesterday of what it was like for many Americans to watch Who back when I first saw it: a video of a mid-1980s public broadcasting station pledge drive, complete with costumed fans manning the phones. Those were the days, uphill in the snow both ways and all that. Generally think Nine and Ten have been two good Doctors, but that Ten in particular has been let down by some of the things the scripts and the things they make him do. That's a good way of putting it, I think. On average, the things I like about the new series (and the Who universe in general) outweigh my gripes -- enough to keep me enthusiastic about the show, anyway. Though I think I'll always be a Three girl at heart. |
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Post by jjpor on Aug 25, 2009 20:50:47 GMT
That's a nice video - greatly amused by the fella dressed as Ainley!Master jumping over the scarf...
I think in Ten's case, there's a distinction between liking Ten as a character and liking Tennant's performance as Ten and liking some of the stories he's been in, and indeed some of the lines he's given.
Then again, there's a distinction between liking Ten and general admiration for Tennant the man, the actor, the legend ;D - this has been increasingly infecting DbyA in recent months as we seem to be getting all sentimental about Ten's impending demise. ;D
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Post by primsong on Aug 25, 2009 23:38:37 GMT
Curse of Peladon is win - what a great way for you to have launched your fandom in your youth. And another Three-fan!! *is vastly happified*
Wow, that cake... JJ, what DID you put in that cake? 0.o Don't worry, we'll assume it was while you were under the influence of your Master icon... look into his eyes.... look deeply... now, reach for those other spices and shake them in....
Welcome, welcome, welcome!
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Post by hangingfire on Aug 26, 2009 1:19:17 GMT
jjpor: It's hard not to get at least a little sentimental about a departing Doctor, I think—although I realised recently this is the first one I've actually experienced "as it happens" while watching the show; though McCoy came on board back in the 1980s when I was first watching the show, it wasn't as if we were getting the episodes here in the States, at least not where I lived at the time, so it was all happening at a very long distance for me. And I only started watching the new series the year after Eccleston left. Although—wait. There was the TV movie, which I did see when it aired (and had to explain, with much flailing, to my roommate and then-boyfriend that no, the show that I remembered really was brilliant, honest). But that was different in its own way. I have to say, I did very much enjoy seeing Tennant et al at San Diego Comic-Con this year. Sparkly Stormtrooper t-shirt and all. I agree with those distinctions; that rather makes clear something I've tried to explain to others, with some fulminating. primsong: I actually haven't seen "Curse of Peladon" since that long-ago lazy Saturday afternoon -- I need to go back and watch it again. I was so confused; I had no idea what I was watching or what was going on, but I somehow instinctively knew it was awesome. I've pre-ordered my Three action figure already...
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Post by primsong on Aug 26, 2009 5:33:45 GMT
OOOoooo! Shiny! I want those! That and the one with the Dalek (maroon trim! boots!) are both rather good, but Sea Devils is probably one of my favorite outfits, very nice.
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Post by jjpor on Aug 26, 2009 20:54:00 GMT
Yeah, the Ten regeneration is going to be big, in terms of what it does to the fandom. I was recently fascinated to watch the Torchwood fandom implode/explode/eat itself in response to Children of Earth. I hope NuWhodom doesn't respond in quite as histrionic a manner; it's been suggested by some that a large proportion of the current young fanbase have only really known Ten as the Doctor and will find the change hard to accept. I think those who have come to the oldschool series through NuWho will be less affected by it, though; I mean, I think most people accept that change and reinvention is a central part of the show. The hardcore classic Who fans will just soldier on. ;D It's certainly going to be an interesting thing to see, as someone who doesn't have that much invested in Ten other than finding him a decent Doctor who's been in some good stories, anyway.
I sympathise with your roommate/boyfriend; if the TVM had been the very first I'd ever seen of Doctor Who, I don't think I'd hold it in very high regard either. ;D McCoy was a legend in it, though, as always.
Favourite three outfits...well, I think it was all downhill after he ditched that hat he stole in Spearhead from Space. That had style.
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Post by hangingfire on Aug 27, 2009 14:18:08 GMT
The response to CoE made me run for the bomb shelter. It probably says little good about me that I was tempted to loiter near the BBCA booth at SDCC during RTD's signing just to see if anyone would start yelling at him (or worse) for the events of CoE. I don't know if anyone did, but I did see at least four security guards hanging about the booth, which was more than most signing events seemed to have. But yeah, I do hope things don't go quite so nuclear with Who.
A couple of years back, I discovered that there were a lot of things I'd forgotten about the TVM -- including the fact that the Master was the big bad in it. The joke now is that it was so awful that I must have actively blocked the Master's presence out of my mind. And now that the memory has been recovered, I can't see Eric Roberts in anything without giggling.
There was some auction recently of a massive amount of BBC costumage that included one of Pertwee's Three jackets -- the green velvet one, IIRC. Not my favorite of his outfits, but still; if only I'd had the money. (There was also a sort of underwear thing that Stephen Fry had worn in "Blackadder", which would have been worth it if only to say that one owned Stephen Fry's underpants.)
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Post by magnusgreel on Aug 27, 2009 19:34:39 GMT
Thinking of mobs with torches after RTD makes me happy. I've been accentuating the negative. I've never seen Torchwood though. Lately, I'm fixating so much on New Who's re-embracing of DW as a children's show that I wonder what RTD setting out to do a Whoish show for grownups would look like... and then what would enrage staunch fans of this whatever. I have a lot of catching up to do.
Don't worry jjpor, I remember your remarks about their reliance on shallow tough-guy posturing, something like that. I don't like that sort of thing either.
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Post by jjpor on Aug 27, 2009 21:26:24 GMT
I wonder what RTD setting out to do a Whoish show for grownups would look like... Fairly horrible, for the most part; as you say, shallow posturing in spades. And I say this as someone who's watched the show, derived entertainment value from it, written lengthy fanfics touching on it; still, a guilty pleasure. Very guilty. And then, they go and make a Torchwood story that is actually pretty good - better than the great majority of NuWho, probably, allowing for some typically RTD-esque quirks - and a large part of the fans absolutely hate their guts for it, want to lynch them in fact. Ah, the bitter, bitter ironies of SF fandom, eh? ;D hangingfire, I can see why you might want to blot parts of the TVM out of your memory. For what it's worth, I kind of like Roberts in it, almost in spite of his performance; mind you, see comments re Torchwood above. I make no claims to have, like, taste or anything. I think Creature from the Pit is genius, for instance. ;D Especially the bit with the "Teach Yourself Tibetan" book... Another Three outfit I seem to remember is a fairly horrible orange velvet jacket - can't remember which story it was in, but it's burned into my memory just for sheer horribleness. Good old Three... |
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Post by magnusgreel on Aug 27, 2009 22:56:47 GMT
Now I have to feel sorry for RTD. I'm going to find the proper place to ask you more about CoE.
Graham Williams is my 2nd favorite producer, closely followed by Letts, despite all the things the GW era is guilty of that the Letts era isn't. If eras can be guilty. I wish the GW period had more gravity and SF content, but they throw the special Tom period irony and absurdity at is in buckets to make up for it. I've forgotten the thread subject now, sorry... Anyway, "Teach Yourself Tibetan" is funny, and they get away with that stuff I think. CFtP works and has some interesting ideas-- all metal being depleted and the long-term impact, if you already have a technological society that intends to stay that way, for one thing. We also learn that aluminum is very good at wrapping practically anything. Yet, in Nimons I throw things at the TV and then throw the TV at other things, when Tom pins the medal on K9. Don't I just beat all?
The Sylvester part of the TV film is one of the best pieces of DW ever. It's miraculous. I want to live in that console room.
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Post by merrythemad on Aug 28, 2009 17:49:48 GMT
Personally I think it was the chains what did it, who can resist that? *winks*
At any rate, 'ello (did you just say hello? no i said 'ello but that's close enough) Hangingfire, welcome to DbA. We are (in the odd event you failed to notice) a bunch of over-friendly nutters who are by and large harmless (I should have said mostly harmless for my beloved Douglas Adms but it gets old).
My favourite Doctor is the Doctor but I am partial to four, who was my first. Although ten, seven, and five are often high on my nonexistent list ( a list may hurt someone's feelings). I'm sure I'll bore you to death with my outlandish theories (for instance scary hand!Doc is the Valeyard) and my unwavering devotion to convincing CP that Donna is NOT Romana (lol). Have fun and can't wait to see you about the place!
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Post by jjpor on Aug 30, 2009 11:54:16 GMT
Now I have to feel sorry for RTD. Don't weaken now, in the home straight! ;D No, I felt sorry for him too; it just goes to show that "fandom" as an entity often has different criteria for judging a story than, you know, whether it's _good_ or not. Especially in the modern internet-driven age of instant opinion-making. Still, it was fascinating to watch in near-realtime, the wailing and gnashing of teeth... Yeah, the late Four stories are a bit of an acquired taste, I think sometimes; it depends on how much silliness you're willing to swallow, I guess. I am, I must confess, a very, very silly person... Yeah, I think the TVM's great, up to the bit where Seven gets shot; downhill from there... |
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Post by magnusgreel on Aug 31, 2009 7:29:30 GMT
Sylvester dying to Madame Butterfly worked for me.
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