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Post by reversethepolarity on Aug 31, 2010 2:06:28 GMT
Hmph. Yeah. 'Dodgy' is one word for it. = ) And Sil was very interesting. I thought we was surprisingly well done. I was a little unsure of him at first, but by the end of the episode, and certainly by his return in Mindwarp, I was pretty much in his corner. Well, as far as 'he's a great villain,' not really as 'I want you to win.' I thought he was kinda gross at times, like when he was eating, and I didn't like that really annoying thing he kept doing with his tongue, but he was more believable than a lot of Who baddies. And he actually had a pretty good design.
I have to say, though, what I loved most were the super-GoKarts. Those things were awesome. I very much want one. I really loved how they could never just walk, even though it was sometimes only a couple, short yards to their destination. = )
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Post by jjpor on Aug 31, 2010 19:16:12 GMT
Is this the point where I once again tell my story about Sil scaring the proverbial out of me when I was a nipper...and the bit where PERI TURNS INTO A BIRD!!! Seriously, my main memory of Six-era Who is cowering in terror from one horrible special effect after another, you know like kids are anecdotally supposed to do when they watch Doctor Who? Great times...great times...
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 1, 2010 4:12:55 GMT
Heh. I wish I'd been able to watch Doctor Who when I'd been that young. Probably would have been an entirely different experience. I saw a bit of Four and Seven, in reruns, but not enough to leave any lingering effects of post-traumatic stories, I'm afraid. = ) I am glad to hear it didn't scare you off of Who for ever, though.
Colin's era was pretty scare and violent. Even now it surprises me when I watch it, and I'm certainly no 'nipper.' = ) I rather like it, though, and Colin's first season is one of my favorites, up there with Jon's season 8 and Tom's... Well, Tom's entire run, really. = )
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Post by jjpor on Sept 1, 2010 19:56:23 GMT
It is surprisingly strong stuff when you think of Who as a "kids' show", which I'm not sure it really was any more by the mid-80s (might have been a factorn in its demise)...but yeah, even though I don't think I fully understood and appreciated the stories until I was a bit older, by which time Seven was the Doctor, some of those memories from watching Five and Six stick with me very vividly. I think you're right about it being different when you're very young. I suppose the kids today will take their memories of new Who with them for the rest of their lives, and that can only be a good thing imho.
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 7, 2010 15:37:10 GMT
Yeah, I don't know what Doctor Who had become by the 80s, but I don't think it was a Kid's Show. It wasn't exactly an adult show either, which yeah, probably didn't help it. I wish I had memories of Doctor Who from my childhood like you do. I have very few. I'd seen a little of Tom Baker as a kid, but I was a complete idiot at the time and didn't like it. I even turned it off. (Gasp!) Later, once I'd become a huge fan, I looked back and realized the first episode I'd ever seen was 'Horns of Nimon.' Which may very well explain why I thought it was stupid and didn't like it. (I love that episode now, for it's campiness, but I can see how it could turn me off.) Then I caught some of Seven in reruns, but that was it for my childhood. So sad.
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Post by jjpor on Sept 8, 2010 18:50:18 GMT
Aww well, you're seeing them all now and that's the main thing. I can see how Nimon would have that effect on people... ;D This goes back to the age-old discussion about which is the best Who story to show to non-fans to get them into the show... A lot of people say City of Death is a good one, and I can see how it certainly might be, but I've heard of people getting good results with Remembrance of the Daleks... I wonder, what would your choice be?
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Post by clocketpatch on Sept 9, 2010 3:02:27 GMT
NIMONS ARE FOREVER!!!!!!!!
okay, now that THAT is out of my system...
I remember trying to watch City of Death early on in my Classic Who watching, mostly because everyone raves about it (and I'm one of those ravers now) but that first time I was bored out of my tree during the endless running through Paris sequences and kind of drifted away. When I showed it to my room mate she had a similar reaction.
It is an awesome episode, but you have to become accustomed to the slower pace and some of the finer nuances of the show before you can appreciate it fully I think. I mean, I didn't know who Romana was so I was just: ??!. Now the Doctor/Romana (and the witty DNA dialogue) is my favourite part.
Remembrance on the other hand grabbed me right in, though, you need to have watched An Unearthly Child first, and you need to know what a Dalek is (and knowing who Davros is would also probably be good...). That said, it got my room mate hooked on Seven without any of those prerequisites, so...
Seven is just awesome though. Him and Ace. They just can't be denied.
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 9, 2010 22:46:38 GMT
Well, I tend to just go with the easy route and show my friends 'An Unearthly Child' first and then 'The Daleks.' Surprisingly, it's worked out every time so far. With two of my friends I also showed them the first episode (usually the regeneration episode) of each Doctor. I wasn't sure about this method, but they suggested it and for them it worked. I also like the show the three multi-Doctor episodes, that seems to work.
But my absolute favorite way to start people off is with Tom. I just go from Robot through to the end. It seems to work. Plus it helps me infect more people with 'Tom is my Doctor' syndrome. = )
But for specific episodes, I'd probably go with Unearthly Child or Remembrance. Maybe Revelation of the Daleks. Or Genesis of the Daleks. I don't love Daleks, but they tend to make good starting points. The Sea Devils could work too. It worked on one of my friends well enough and now she's obsessed with Jon. Which is always a good thing. = )
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Post by primsong on Sept 22, 2010 21:25:00 GMT
Belatedly pondering this here - I have to say it's a tossup between Varos and Two Doctors - they both have some excellent moments in them... if push came to shove, Two Doctors wins in only because it has Pat's iconic 'Oh my giddy aunt, oh crumbs!' and some lovely little Jamie moments as well. Poor old Six - he did draw more than his fair share of the short straws, didn't he?
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Post by eve11 on Apr 4, 2011 1:47:21 GMT
Dudes and dudettes I may be completely crazy but I just watched Timelash and IT. WAS. AWESOME! So now it is warring with The Mysterious Planet for my favorite Six episode ever. I liveblogged it here: eve11.livejournal.com/569057.html
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Post by magnusgreel on Apr 12, 2011 23:26:13 GMT
I think we've all had our moments when a supposedly bad story suddenly looks good to us. With me, it's the mood I'm in, and that glow is gone by the next viewing. I've gotten things out of Timelash. The androids look and sound interesting. Paul Darrow gets to be Avon Plus one last time, only really gnawing on the furniture with glee this time. I mean, he practically giggles and says on camera "Look at me!! I'm overacting!!!" But more of the Avon voice is always good.
Last time I saw it though, it became the one and only classic DW story where I'm tempted seriously to drop it from my personal canon, because of mistakes and contradictions. I can't remember what they all were now, though. The aluminum foil netherworld with the pegs on the wall inside was especially hard to take. I'd just been made aware that many of classic Who's makers did actually intend to make a children's program, so odd moments I'd have forgiven in the past as bizarre (but sometimes fun) judgment lapses now look like things thrown in because their real goal was to entertain children, and this happened a lot with Timelash, this last time I saw it. That's not something I can get past.
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Post by raynbowz on Apr 15, 2011 13:56:13 GMT
Can't remember what they're called, but my favorite episodes with Six are the one with the Cybermen and Lytton, and the one with the Daleks. They are a bit violent, especially the one with the Daleks. Still, it's great stuff.
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Post by clocketpatch on Apr 15, 2011 20:28:17 GMT
That's the one where Davros is turning people into Solyent Green and Daleks isn't it? And Six has a lovely blue overcoat? And there's annoying DJ character?
...I remember very little else, but I did like Six's blue overcoat.
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Post by magnusgreel on Apr 16, 2011 3:17:07 GMT
raynbowz, those were "Attack of the Cybermen" and "Revelation of the Daleks". "Attack" doesn't seem popular, but I always liked it, because of various bits that are interesting, all the running around in London in their conspicuous brightly colored outfits (with Peri accusing Six when she's awfully conspicuous herself... nothing wrong with that, I say)... the sewer... that thug (Campion's sidekick) doing a Cyberman voice to mock them... and the scenes with the two work gang prisoners working out how to escape, eventually decapitating a Cyberman!
Revelation is great too, and The Two Doctors is probably my favorite. Varos has its good points. That's it for Colin, for me, really...
I may be repeating myself.
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Post by raynbowz on Apr 16, 2011 21:49:06 GMT
I liked "Attack of the Cybermen" because of the character Lytton, the mercenary. He was in a 5th Doctor episode with Davros and the Daleks, but again, I can't remember which one. I liked "Revelation of the Daleks" a lot; it had a lot going on, but was such fun!
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