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Post by clocketpatch on Aug 1, 2008 21:18:42 GMT
I got bored and decided to watch a reconstruction. It wasn't all that bad really. I got through the first two episodes and I did have a commentary, but the computer glitched and ate it.
I think I'm in love with Evil Two.
If anyone knows where I could find a copy of the third episode please tell me stat! I want to know what happens next and it appears to have been pulled from youtube.
*weeps*
I think that episode might be an actual episode too, and I really, really want to see Evil Two as more than just a picture and a voice (though the voice is brilliant. Right up there with Tom's voice.)
EDIT
wait... I found the commentary...
Why is it moving? I thought this was a lost - oh, no, wait stock footage, my mistake. And now it's pictures. Ah. I'd got my hopes up.
Damn! I want to see Two playing on the beach. Curse you burninators! *shakes fist*
Well, crap.
Gads, if Victoria isn't annoying
Helicopter!
Of course, they hit the fuel tank. how original.
Her name is Astrid? O.o and she *looks* like *that* Astrid too.
"Are you a doctor?" "Not a medical doctor." "A doctor of law? Of philosophy?" "Who's law? which philosophy?"
Two has a look-a-like.
OMG! Evil!Two
And I love his accent.
Yes... well, I did figure they'd have the Doctor impersonating him.
"He looks just like him." "Exactly like him!" yes, it's uncanny, almost like they're played by the same actor!
So... they're in Australia.
Helicopter goes BOOM!
Episode 2:
Hehe, the Doctor is pretending at being evil. I love his haircut.
Undercover Jamie!
"Why did she become a food taster?" "Because she was hungry."
Wow Evil!Two is evil
JAMIEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jamie is being Ace. BOOM!
I love the plan Jamie. hehe.
I can't get over how evil Evil!Two is. It's magnificent! Even with just the voice and pictures. Troughton is SUCH a good actor. *love*
Episode 3:
noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! it's gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
*cries*
yeah, so. good. until it stopped being there.
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Post by magnusgreel on Aug 1, 2008 23:16:56 GMT
I have the one existing episode. Lots of potential in Two stories, I'm afraid my imagination isn't quite enough to make up for all the things they can't show us. I've always loved the title. It's a "global" story, that's good. well at least the future world dictator is Italian, but it was probably because of Mussolini. Anyway, the future isn't just British.
I like the scientist or intellectual in trouble with the government eating his little dinner in the corridor with the guard waiting on him.
Extremely rare, perhaps unique, example of a credible black character with real lines and intelligence in "Classic Who", in the form of that woman working for Salamander in the kitchen... I think that's where she was.
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Post by jjpor on Aug 1, 2008 23:34:20 GMT
You know, I've never seen this one (all one surviving episode), but I want to. Agreed that Troughton was a phenomenal, versatile actor who did so much outside of Who as well. We probably didn't have an actor of the same calibre playing the Doctor until Eccleston/Tennant, to be honest, both of whom are very, very talented, regardless of what oldschool naysayers may think of some of their stories.
Also check out Hartnell in some of the stuff he did pre-Who - he appeared in a lot of gritty British 40s and 50s crime flicks like "Brighton Rock" and "Hell Drivers", often in roles very different from the good Doctor
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Post by clocketpatch on Aug 2, 2008 0:34:24 GMT
Mangus... I probably shouldn't be asking this, but is there any chance of that one episode making its way onto youtube for a day or two? Just long enough to watch... all the rest of it is up.
I really should bite the bullet and buy my own Who and stop stealing off the internet. But blimey! Why must it be so expensive/hard to find???
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Post by magnusgreel on Aug 2, 2008 8:35:47 GMT
cp--- I'd love to, but my equipment is minimal. I can't even watch video with my 90s computer. The reason I have this episode is the selling off of videotapes in recent years... I got a tape of 3 surviving Troughtons in a used record shop for $3.
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Post by primsong on Dec 2, 2008 6:26:38 GMT
Enemy of the World is definitely on my 'get to' list - I've only read the synopsis and seen some of the stills they had from it. Sounds like it's worth a listen!
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Post by magnusgreel on Dec 5, 2008 3:13:55 GMT
I love the title.
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Post by clocketpatch on Jan 14, 2009 6:46:25 GMT
I FOUND THE 3RD EPISODE!!! I FOUND IT!!! I FOUND IT!!! *dissolves into a quivering pile of fangirl happy* OMG! Jamie's uniform! *eyes bug out* Salamander is wearing a cravaat... lol, I wonder if this has anything to do with why Two dislikes Three so very much. "Dinner tonight is going to be a national disaster" *grins* I love the comic-relief from the SUPER optimistic chef. ... Jamie's uniform... it get better (worse?!??) with each appearance... Evil!Two is taking over the world with Earthquakes... and a very odd accent. wait, wait, wait. I recognize that stock footage. THAT'S THE SAME STOCK FOOTAGE FROM THE BEGINNING OF INFERNO! (feels incredibly nerdy) haha, the Doctor, in his box. "People spend all of their time making nice things and then other people come along and break them" wait... wait... is Victoria wearing Jamie's kilt?! "How's the food... terrible, terrible, terrible. They'll send me in front of the firing party I reckon. But they'll probably just miss..." I cannot emphasis how much I love the chef's deadpan gloom and doom. It's even better because everyone else keeps talking about how great the food is. he actually reminds me of the chef in a kitchen I worked at a few years back who constantly talked to himself and said things like "I'm going to explode! like a volcano! intestines on the ceiling! that'll be a mess for me to clean up in the morning" ...he was a very odd man. "Sometimes we do what we have to do, not what we want to do" Extremely intense acting right here. I like the food taster character (she's the one you were talking about Magnus, with the real lines and intelligence). Unlike Victoria who just won the not-very-bright award. Leave the food unattended? Seriously? "How do you cut a steak with a spoon?" I dunno... maybe ask Alan Rickman... you know that Robin Hood movie, yes? yes? Does anyone get this reference but me? lol Oh, Victoria doesn't win the award after all; THIS guy does. Don't accept a glass of wine to "drink to your health" from a ruthless evil dictator who is currently upset with you... WHEN YOU JUST HANDED HIM A BOX OF POISON. *eyeroll* Oh, drat it, I think part of the episode is missing. At least, something seems to have been skipped... now they're in Salamander's office... This is so surreal: evil!Two (being mean to Jamie!), Jamie who is in a tight leather uniform... with tight leather trousers, and Victoria is wearing his kilt and... this story blows my mind. Jamie and Victoria are escorted away. Ah, the penny drops. Well, that was a rather lame cliff-hanger.
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Post by Stripes on Jan 14, 2009 16:55:18 GMT
I want to watch this. T_T
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Post by magnusgreel on Jan 14, 2009 21:26:10 GMT
I really liked your remarks cp, and I remember responding that way to stories. The reasons I can't now are more symptom-related than time-related. I especially liked the deadpan doom talk vs. bad food talk comment. That just might give me an angle to allow me to get more out of the episode next time, since I never saw it when symptoms were less severe, I only got it three or four years ago. Words are very good and versatile tools. They can help the mind to get around barriers or deficits or handicaps to some extent.
You might like the UK sitcom "Chef!" with Lenny Henry (who did a Dr Who sketch on his other sketch comedy show once!) cp. He stars in it as an explosive, mean (meaning well though), creatively sarcastic master chef in a gourmet restaurant. Slight coincidence, another example of an intelligently written black character working in a kitchen. I think he wrote them, i think he was a stand-up comedian. It's a great big sarcasm festival!
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Post by jjpor on Jan 14, 2009 22:33:13 GMT
*cough*link, Clocket? Link?*cough*
I've seen part of a reconstruction of this since this thread began, and remain deeply intrigued by it; I'd love to see the actual episode, just to see Troughton playing the baddie, but the other characters and the story are really interesting too; I think it was a bit of a change of pace at a time when Who had become very much monster-oriented with the base-under-siege format firmly established.
And I'd second Magnus's Lenny Henry recommendation; as with many comedy/entertainment stars of the 80s and 90s he seems to have dropped out of sight in recent years, but when he was good he was very, very good.
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Post by primsong on Jan 15, 2009 16:34:47 GMT
*cough*link, Clocket? Link?*cough* I second that! Where, where?
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