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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 7, 2010 15:47:48 GMT
You know, I don't think that looking forward in time a bit would actually have helped. The Time War was one of those timey-wimey things that hadn't happened until it, well, happened. 'Cause the Doctor had gone forward into the future before and never seen a Time Lordless world. I don't think it happened until they changed history by having the War. I don't think it was actually part of the natural progression of time. 'Cause they certainly would have seen it coming then and done something about it. If any of that makes sense.
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Post by primsong on Sept 7, 2010 20:20:48 GMT
I deal with the weirdness the whole Time War concept brought into everything by being in denial about it. It makes everything so much easier if you figure the Doctor just misunderstood what was going on and Gallifrey is really still out there, they just don't want anything to do with him anymore. ;-)
A bit like an opossum playing dead. "Go away, we're not here."
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Post by clocketpatch on Sept 8, 2010 1:54:57 GMT
I'm quite fond of the idea of the Time Lords just hiding from the Doctor, being all "you mess things up and we don't want to play with you any more!" They're probably having a great old time in the time lock at the Party of Rassilon, listening to the Master play the drums and drinking the Cocktails of Rassilon... or, um, maybe not. I drew an MS paint diagram of the universe before and after the Time War at some point and I think that's probably still around somewhere on the forum...
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Post by jjpor on Sept 8, 2010 19:04:27 GMT
This was my effort to make sense of the whole Time War business: deathbyaspirin.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fanfic&action=display&thread=717Kind of long and rambling, and now probably obsolete due to End of Time (not that I really mind RTD Jossing all of my Time War fanfic, because it means now I can think of the Further Adventures of Romana instead... ;D) I remember Clocket's diagram, but I can't remember which thread it was on... I do kind of like the idea, though, of the Master and Rassilon kicking back in the Pad of Rassilon in the Citadel and laughing it up: Rassilon (quaffing the Ale of Rassilon): The fool! He really believes the Time War was real! Master: I know! He even believed that stupid story about me hearing the drums! Rassilon (laughing the Laugh of Rassilon): HA HA HA HAAA HAAAAHH! Truly it is the greatest practical joke in the history of space and time! To Gallifrey, to trickery, to the Ruse of Rassilon!!! Master: You just spat in my Pina Colada of Rassilon!
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 9, 2010 22:29:29 GMT
Hmph. Oh, wow. That's the best theory I've ever heard (aside from one about Mel's scream causing Six's regeneration.) I've been trying to work my way around that awful Time War for years. Now that I know I can just ignore it, I'm very happy. = )
Not to mention, I love the idea of Rassilon and The Master just relaxing on Gallifrey and playing a giant joke on the Doctor. It's a very complex joke, I'll give them that. (Which is keeping in form for the Master and Rassilon.) It's good to know Gallifrey is still out there somewhere instead of the nonsense we got at End of Time.
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Post by motorizeddustbin on Sept 25, 2010 19:43:02 GMT
Hmph. I actually like the idea of the TimeWar (accepting that it was not supposed to happen and rippled out, changing history and the future to some degree and thus explaining why past Doctors could go into the future and see a world with a strong Gallifreyan presence. Well, sorta explaining that. If you don't think too hard on it.) I would love to have Gallifrey, and all of its Gallifreyans and Time Lords, back, but I'm not too upset about it. This might be helped, in part, by my being introduced to, and very much liking, Doctor Who when this was already a firmly established fact.
Also, a shout out to "The Happiness Patrol." I might go so far as to say that that is my favorite episode of the ones I have watched. But then again, that might change by tomorrow. It is certainly among my favorites, at the least.
Anyway, on to nicknames. I don't really refer to the Doctors by nicknames, in general, but I will try to recollect how I remembered them when I was first learning of them - and how I referred to them with my Doctor Who inclined friends. Some will just be made up on the fly, though. I'll star those.
One: Original. Two: Trout. Three: Thieving Doc.* Four: The Doctor. Five: Brainy specs. No, not the scrawny guy. Decorative vegetable. Six: Conspicuous.* Seven: The one with the bad teeth. Eight: ZAGREUS! And...erm, pretty Doc.* Nine: The Fantastic Doctor. No, not Celery, the one with the ears and the nose. My Doctor. Ten: Scrawny Doc. Eleven: Bowtie.*
=)
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 25, 2010 20:12:50 GMT
Oh, I think the same. When I'm watching NuWho or roleplaying in a multi-Doctor arc, so I have to accept the existence of the Time War, then I always use that idea. It's the only one that really makes sense, given that the Doctors could go into the future and still see Gallifrey. Plus, it works with established time rules in Doctor Who. (To be fair, I do like some of the aspects of the Time War. Specifically, anything with the Eighth Doctor. Beyond that, I'm not a fan.)
Oh, me too! I love "The Happiness Patrol." It was a beautifully executed episode with a really great plot and some great acting. I almost cried at that end part with Helen A and then was like 'wait, I don't even like her... and I don't care about her stupid dog.' I mean, being able to get me upset over something I don't care about is just great writing and acting all around. I think 'The Mind of Evil' (Jon Pertwee) is still my favorite, but Happiness is very, very high.
Four: The Doctor. Six: Conspicuous.* Eight: ZAGREUS! And...erm, pretty Doc.*
Love those. Especially Six's. I should have thought of that.
On another note, I forgot one nickname my friends and I use for Eight. 'Edward.' It's completely random, but it sprang from an Rp I did with friend in which I was a newly regenerated and heavily amnesiac Eight and she was a post-Survival, but still traveling with Seven Ace. We meet up and neither of us knows who the other is because I don't remember her and she's never met me. She then precedes to start calling me 'Edward' because of my 'Edwardian' clothes. Upon reflection, I think he was Victorian clothes, but the name stuck all the same and I use 'Edward' a lot in Eight fics I do.
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Post by primsong on Sept 25, 2010 21:24:56 GMT
Thieving Doc? What did he 'thieve'? I mean, he had to give the car and clothing back... *wonders* I just find it intriguing because it's like nothing I've ever seen associated with Three before.
The Edward would kind of fit him, gives him a variation from John. Maybe Edward can be his fake middle name, John Edward Smith sounds dignified and vague at the same time.
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 25, 2010 21:43:11 GMT
Thieving Doc? What did he 'thieve'? I mean, he had to give the car and clothing back... *wonders* I just find it intriguing because it's like nothing I've ever seen associated with Three before. The Edward would kind of fit him, gives him a variation from John. Maybe Edward can be his fake middle name, John Edward Smith sounds dignified and vague at the same time. Yeah, I always associated thieving more with Tom Baker, if anyone. Maybe Paul McGann. But I guess Jon did steal some things and, had the Brig not made him, he wouldn't have given back that car and clothes. Oh, I like that. Though with Eight, I think it would actually be John Edward Bowman. 'Cause Grace gave him the name Dr. John Bowman in the movie and he tended to use that a lot in the books. Which I like. It was a nice little change from John Smith. Thanks for the idea. Plus, it sounds just like Eight to add a middle name, just 'cause he wants to and thinks it sounds better. = ) *Rushes off to rewrite some of his fanfics.*
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 25, 2010 21:45:43 GMT
Oh, and here. I just found some of BBC's nicknames from the Doctor Who Magazine.
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Post by motorizeddustbin on Sept 25, 2010 23:25:46 GMT
Thieving Doc? What did he 'thieve'? I mean, he had to give the car and clothing back... *wonders* I just find it intriguing because it's like nothing I've ever seen associated with Three before. The Edward would kind of fit him, gives him a variation from John. Maybe Edward can be his fake middle name, John Edward Smith sounds dignified and vague at the same time. Mostly due to the scene in which he steals Jo's sandwiches, but also because he did take the car and clothing and likely would not have returned them on his own. To be fair, this isn't a trait exclusively held by the Third Doctor by any means. The next situation that jumps to mind is Seven stealing cat food in "Survival." But it is what is in the forefront in my mind when thinking of Pertwee. Poor Jo. xP
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 26, 2010 0:12:40 GMT
Oh, I forgot about the sandwiches. He steals the Master's too, during a swordfight! Oh, Jon. We love you. = )
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Post by primsong on Sept 26, 2010 2:41:37 GMT
True, true - though at least he apologized to her...after he ate them...
Heh, the sketches aren't too flattering for them, are they? Poor old One - he's always remembered as being crotchety, but he laughed and giggled more than any. I <3 One's laugh, it always makes me laugh too.
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Post by reversethepolarity on Sept 27, 2010 1:47:28 GMT
Indeed. But he didn't apologize to the Master. = )
I love One. He was just so much fun. The Romans was one of the best episodes in Doctor Who. He's standing there laughing his head off while he beats up some guy, and I didn't even think he could beat someone up.
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