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Post by clocketpatch on Mar 23, 2012 8:01:35 GMT
It's still a good year off and the way the climate is going mad who knows if we'll even last that long (maybe the people misinterpreting the Maya ARE on to something after all) but bizarre spring heatwaves and seismic shenanigans aren't going to stop me from some silly 50th anniversary speculation. Nor should they stop you!
So go ahead and speculate! Write out fantasy plot summaries and list your dream cast. Make lists of what you want to see and what you most certainly do not want to see -
I for example would very much like to see a CGI Frobisher and a wax model Nine. I would very much NOT like to see Four confess his undying love to an undead Adric (but now you've all got that image in your head, you're welcome)...
You don't need white text since I doubt any of us are THAT psychic, though it will be fun to compare and contrast the theories with the fact November 2013 does manage to swing around without the earth imploding.
THERE IS AN EXCEPTION!
If you by chance run into confirmed casting, location, or plot information and wish to speculate on it you definitely can. We aren't going to make you sit in a corner with a silly hat, but you will have to use white text to conceal spoilers.
Or else you will have to go into the corner. And we still won't give you a hat.
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Post by aquabluejay on Mar 23, 2012 17:12:03 GMT
Awwww, I wanted a silly hat...
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Post by aquabluejay on Mar 23, 2012 17:13:23 GMT
Also, rather than completely reiterating my theory from before concerning Christopher Eccleston and wax models, I'll just remind everyone of it on this thread. XD
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Post by jjpor on Mar 23, 2012 18:57:10 GMT
Well, at a bare minimum, I'd want Smith, Tennant, wax!Eccles, McGann, McCoy, Baker C, Davison, Baker T, and... (I don't really want Sean Pertwee in a wig anymore - somebody on Livejournal pointed out to me what a spectacularly bad idea that probably is, and having taken the time for a bit of calm reflection, I tend to agree. ;D) In the five minutes it's taken me to type that, I've actually thought of a story that could explain the absence of the unfortunately passed-on Doctors...! Right, somebody is using the old Time Scoop of Rassilon (as portrayed in The Five Doctors - yes, I would expect any special to contain such a high pitch of fanw*nkery, obviously) to, well, enact a similar sort of plan as Borusa had there. They're retroactively erasing the Doctor by nicking his earlier regenerations with the Scoop and depositing them in the Death Zone on (the "time-locked") Gallifrey, outside the normal parameters of time n' space. The effect of this is that the first Three Doctors are already hors de combat, represented only by cunningly-edited-in stock footage at the beginning and end of the story a la Tom and Lalla in Five Doctors. The erasure starts with the oldest incarnations and works its way forward - Eleven just feels a bit under the weather, but Four, Five, Six etc are already experiencing advanced physical ageing, to be followed eventually...by death! Nine, meanwhile, due to some timey-wimey side effect of the Scoop has inexplicably turned into a wax statue... So, the surviving Doctors go on a prolonged quest to run the blighters to ground. Naturally, they think it's the Master (played by Benedict Cumberbatch, Derek Jacobi, Paterson Joseph, John Simm and Jason Isaacs, all with black goatees of Evil!), but it turns out not to be. Picking up as many new series and old series companions as there are still surviving actors for, Drax, the Rani, 70s!UNIT, the Meddling Monk and Alpha Centauri for backup, the whole mob-handed contingent do something incredibly dangerous with the TARDISes to penetrate the Time Lock on Gallifrey. There, they have to fight and outwit their way past various Yetis, Cybermen, Ice Warriors, Sontarans, Sea Devils, Slitheen, the Kandyman, the Celestial Toymaker etc etc etc to get to the Dark Tower at the heart of the Death Zone. There, in the mausoleum chamber of Rassilon himself (where Borusa's stone head still waits and watches), they discover that the true villain of the piece is... ...the only major monster they didn't encounter already... The Daleks! Led by Davros! But... They and he have been resurrected and given a chance to change history and undo the Time War by erasing the Doctor by... The Trickster out of SJA??!!! Who is in reality... The Black Guardian!?!??!?!?! And is at the same time, somehow their Time War sponsor, the embodiment of the order and conformity the Daleks live for... The White Guardian?!?!!!?!??!!?!??!?!! Anyway, in some manner that makes sense in the context of the story and isn't just a last-minute RTD-style rabbit out of a top hat, the Doctor(s) defeat Davros and the Guardian(s) and free the first three Doctors (stock footage shows them going about their business alive and well). The side effect of all of this is that the Time Lock is unlocked - the Time War still happened, but Gallifrey is in some handwavy way resurrected and the Time Lords are the same as they always were (maybe Les Docteurs have the defeat Lord President Bond, James Bond too to accomplish this). Romana is the Prez, naturally. So, after various huzzahs, they all go on their way. Final line is in some way resonant with An Unearthly Child, because it's fitting. End titles include a montage of memorial shots of all of the great Who actors who couldn't make the 50th anniversary due to mortality. And that's EXACTLY what's going to happen! You heard it here first! And if it doesn't (I know, unlikely), I might be bagsying all of the above for fanfic purposes come 2013. ;D
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Post by aquabluejay on Mar 23, 2012 22:13:42 GMT
I confess JJ that after the first few paragraphs of your above post, it simply became too much fan wank for me to handle and I had to skim the first few sentences of each part of the rest of it, and then shut my laptop and clear my mind before I was able to function again. Honestly, I only got about as far as "Nine, meanwhile, due to some timey-wimey side effect of the Scoop has inexplicably turned into a wax statue..." before I just couldn't take it anymore. XD
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Post by jjpor on Mar 23, 2012 22:27:37 GMT
I confess JJ that after the first few paragraphs of your above post, it simply became too much fan wank for me to handle Mission accomplished. ;D
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Post by Cadet on Mar 24, 2012 1:02:39 GMT
I did better than you, Aqua, I read the whole thing, every word.
It was still fan sensory-overload, though, JJ. Which, as you just confirmed, was your mission...
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Post by cupofenglishtea on Mar 27, 2012 1:35:45 GMT
What about a full circle theory? The Doctor already has a daughter, maybe we meet Susan? Then make it wibbly wobbly timey wimey enough to let the Doctor go forth in his adventures. We could solve the Susan Dilemma AND get people interested in ClassicWho.
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Post by jjpor on Mar 28, 2012 22:48:20 GMT
I try, Cadet, I try.
I like the idea of taking it right back to the beginning. A re-cast Susan (maybe she regenerated, thus taking care of the ridiculous fan-generated idea that she wasn't actually a Time Lady. Not that Time Lords or Ladies had even been invented at the time Susan was in the programme, of course, but, still on the available evidence...)? Or Carole Ann Ford? I like the idea of Eleven being confronted with a grandaughter who is now physically much older than he is (and hopefully there wouldn't be any slightly disturbing vibes between them like Davison at moments seemed to be radiating in The Five Doctors. Davison, Davison... ;D).
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Post by aquabluejay on Mar 29, 2012 0:19:43 GMT
Yeah, that was an odd scene. I would have expected Five to hug her or something, but he just sort of panted at her, as he tends too... I mean, yeah, there was a crisis on and he'd been virtual comatose moments before, but still....
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Post by jjpor on Mar 29, 2012 18:14:27 GMT
Well, he could be a strange one, Fivey, but as you say...still...
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Post by Cadet on Mar 29, 2012 22:34:18 GMT
I like the full circle Susan idea thing, but somehow doubt that it'll actually happen...
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Post by jjpor on Mar 30, 2012 17:53:38 GMT
Me neither, really. I can live in hope, though, can't it?
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Post by starpanda on Nov 27, 2012 21:49:17 GMT
It was at this point that the milk I was drinking came out of my nose.
Agreed on the whole Susan thing. I feel like the whole "One day I will come back" speech is the biggest thread left dangling in all of Who. Although I too have a feeling it won't be resolved - at least not yet.
And Fivey... I love him dearly, but that was just... strange.
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Post by jjpor on Nov 27, 2012 22:21:57 GMT
I don't trust either of those Guardians - I'm still waiting for the confirmation that they were actually behind the blowing up TARDIS/cracks in the universe thing ALL ALONG... ;D I think that would be great, if they picked it up where One's speech left off, Eleven going back to see her after all this time. I don't know how they'd square it with the Time War and everything, but they'd think of something, I'm sure. He could be a strange one, Fivey, I think it's fair to say.
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Post by aquabluejay on Nov 27, 2012 23:10:56 GMT
If the black guardian ever comes back, I demand that the Crow on his head be either animatronic or CGI and do something exciting- at least as much as the Wiseman's hat in Labyrinth.
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Post by starpanda on Nov 29, 2012 2:45:46 GMT
It was a CROW?!?! I mean, I thought it looked a bit weird at the time, but I never suspected...
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Post by aquabluejay on Nov 29, 2012 2:58:18 GMT
It was a CROW?!?! I mean, I thought it looked a bit weird at the time, but I never suspected... I mean... I'm pretty sure. It was probably fake, but who knows... Ah, you've missed out on our previous discussions of both the guardians having dead birds on their heads. It's a thing.
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Post by clocketpatch on Dec 3, 2012 0:25:08 GMT
Yeah, the White Guardian has a dead dove or something... I think that the Black Guardian's is a raven, but raven, crow -
It's all dead birds.
Fashion statement of the eighties don't cha know?
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Post by aquabluejay on Dec 3, 2012 1:06:31 GMT
The black guardian's horrible leopard-y collar is the truly horrifying bit.
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