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Post by aquabluejay on Nov 29, 2011 2:33:37 GMT
I've been meaning to watch this one for ages now. I was hoping seeing Peri nearly strangled would give me a sense of closure over Fivey's death. It hasn't...
I also though I could handle Six's coat. I was wrong. I seriously think I just broke something in there, although I do admire it's swishy tails.
I've just started the second ep now and Six's and Peri's medical genius is astounding me. Yes, put injured people in low backed chairs so that they can slump uncomfortably... Good plan guys.
What's a little radiation poising between friends Peri says. Yes, six... You've already died from that how many times?
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Post by aquabluejay on Nov 29, 2011 22:10:39 GMT
Doctor: "Shhhsh! Listen!" Peri: "What is it?" Doctor: "The sound of giant slugs."
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Post by jjpor on Nov 29, 2011 22:45:09 GMT
Yes, the distinctive sound of giant slugs... ;D I think The Twin Dilemma is one of those where, when you're not watching it, you are tempted to think of as "so bad it's good", but then when you do watch it, you realise that actually it's just...bad. Six and Peri get off to a good start in their working relationship, though, don't they? No, wait...
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Post by kirkg on Nov 29, 2011 22:46:02 GMT
I had no idea that twins were so dangerous!
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Post by aquabluejay on Nov 30, 2011 3:40:31 GMT
Points to Ancient Civ. Class last year and AP Euro this year for the twins' names! Romulus and Remus indeed. I waited all through the first half for them to turn out to be the insane evil masterminds, or at least for one of them to murder the other... Such disappointment...
The Doctor's last words in this ep are "Remember, I'm the Doctor. Whether you like it or not." He gets some points for pointing out to Peri that he's an alien and can't necessarily be judged the same way... Some.
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Post by jjpor on Nov 30, 2011 21:37:54 GMT
I've always interpreted the "whether you like it or not" thing as some sort of unwise jab at outspoken fanboys by the then-production team. I have no idea whether that's even true, but the line and the way it's shot always seems a little bit too on-the-nose to me...
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Post by aquabluejay on Nov 30, 2011 22:29:56 GMT
Oh definitely.
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Post by magnusgreel on Apr 16, 2012 5:07:18 GMT
Yes, the distinctive sound of giant slugs... ;D I think The Twin Dilemma is one of those where, when you're not watching it, you are tempted to think of as "so bad it's good", but then when you do watch it, you realise that actually it's just...bad. That says it... The children's show issue is (unfortunately) always on my mind, and this is a prime example of a story that was utterly baffling to me, until I realized that the insane-seeming choices made were made for a viewing audience of children. The villain especially. There was also Colin's overacting, and the ridiculously exaggerated space-police uniforms. I could make a list, if I thought about it. Then again, loveable Uncle Doctor, every child's best pal, goes violently psychotic and strangles the viewer-surrogate, Peri. Six and the old Time Lord talk over the good times they had getting hammered, though it was probably Four doing that. If DW is a children's program, it has a severely split personality... None of it fit together.
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Post by cupofenglishtea on Apr 16, 2012 19:19:07 GMT
Am I the only one who thought that the Twin Dilemma was going to be a story about the Sixth Doctor running in to Maxil (that guard that shot Five)? Them both being played by Colin Baker, I thought that it would have made for a good story.
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Post by aquabluejay on Apr 16, 2012 19:28:02 GMT
God, don't we wish... XD
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Post by primsong on Apr 17, 2012 1:58:39 GMT
Oh gosh, I would have loved that - A nice split screen with in-control Maxil on one side of the room and psychotic overacting Six on the other. That would have been rather fun.
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Post by jjpor on Apr 24, 2012 21:13:10 GMT
I agree Magnus - a definite unevenness in tone in much of mid-80s Who, especially the Six era. In previous eras, Who tended to know what it was, and showed definite periods of tone and mood over its span. By the 80s, things were more incoherent. I think there were definitely some good Six stories, but they tended to be let down by that sort of thing, while in the likes of the Twin Dilemma...well...
I think one of the Seven era's strengths (I know, I know, I can increasingly see no wrong in Seven and his stories...) is that on occasion it actually made that contrast between serious/horrific and absurd/tacky work for it very well indeed. Probably because the people running the show were no longer at each other's/the Beeb brass's throats by that point (not that it did them any good in the long run). The Happiness Patrol is the prime example, but I think it achieves similar but lesser success in things like Delta and the Bannermen and (bits of) Dragonfire.
I agree, it must have been Four getting plastered with Azmael... ;D And yes, some sort of bizarre Prince and the Pauper/Prisoner of Zenda kind of deal with Baker, C doing dual roles would have been...well, something, certainly. ;D
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Post by magnusgreel on Apr 29, 2012 9:07:32 GMT
Hmmm. I guess I'll reluctantly admit, jjpor, that in the Seven era, the "absurd/tacky" element wasn't so jarring, and seems to have been built into the general tone of Seven's period, rather than its seeming to drop in from the skylight out of nowhere, as with Six's...
(I have really mixed feelings about those seasons, Six's and Seven's...)
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Post by jjpor on May 1, 2012 20:20:46 GMT
Fair enough, Magnus - in the spirit of reluctantly admitting, I'll reluctantly admit that I'm aware the Seven seasons are not without their faults, but I've got to the stage now where I'm pretty much blithely unaware of most of them when I watch the stories. Helps, I suppose, that he was "my" Doctor when I was still in my first rush of enthusiasm for the show, oh those many years ago now...
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