Dr Who and the Master's Invasion of DbyA, 2009AD!

[jjpor]

While I'm asking people to send me answers on a postcard - this one occurs to me:

Just how the flipping heck do the 1960s Dalek pictures featuring the Cush, our own Mr Cribbins and the late, great Roy Castle fit into Who continuity??!!

Yeah, yeah, I know they don't really, but I want them to, preferably by the most convoluted, cracky line of reasoning possible - suggestions, folks?

My working theories:

1) It was something like what happened to Jackson Lake in The Next Doctor, except in this instance the poor unfortunate in question actually managed to build himself an actual TARDIS...and then had some adventures that seem strangely similar to some the actual Doctor had...

2) One smoked something he shouldn't on some planet somewhere and ended up dreaming the whole thing.

3) The Cushing Who movies actually exist in the Whoniverse too - one of the Doctor's 60s-era companions (pick one) sold their story to a movie producer and the rest is history. Just for the sight of Ten happening upon them accidentally one day on TV and going: "What? What?? What??? Peter Cushing?" ;D

[johne]

Peter Cushing's own theory:

A: Well I’ll tell you something I thought once. I just said I didn’t watch TV, but one of the few episodes of the ‘Dr. Who’ series that I saw was one that involved a kind of mystical clown (‘The Celestial Toymaker’? – ed.), and I realised that perhaps he kidnapped Dr Who and wiped his memory and made him relive some of his earlier adventures. When Bill Hartnell turned into Patrick Troughton, and changed his appearance, that idea seemed more likely. I think that’s what happened, so I think those films we did fit perfectly well into the TV series. That would not have been the case had I taken the role in the TV series.

The next question and answer are interesting, too.

[jjpor]

Well, that makes much more sense than anything I would have come up with! ;D It was either that or something to do with the Land of Fiction as featured in the Mind Robber, I'd argue...

[clocketpatch]

I'm going with option two.

[jjpor]

Option 2 has a certain appeal, definitely. ;D Option 3 appeals to me mainly because I can imagine exactly how Tennant would pronounce "Cushing" in his Ten-voice. Not that that will be of any great importance in a couple of weeks' time from now...

[Stripes]

Why is the master mention in the title but is no where in this thread?
I disapprove!

[clocketpatch]

It I were not hacking slow-as-dial-up wireless from my neighbour, I would respond with an unexpected naked Master gif. Or something of the like. Instead I'll just cackle like a mad woman.

Muhahahhahahahahhaha

Haahahahhaa

Ha!

[lostspook]

Heh, my reaction would be: they don't. Why would you even worry about it??

However, option 3 (although I can't see any of the 60s companions selling out, because it would have to be Ian and Barbara, so maybe it had more to do with incompetnt TW people losing files or something? Ian and Barbara would never sell their stories to a film company!) is semi-official, having featured in a short story in DWM, years back, in which the Third Doctor goes to the cinema to see them, enjoys himself thoroughly, laughing and commenting and irritating everyone else in the cinema.

I came across it again a few months ago, I think, but I remember it because most of those short fics were angst-ridden NA linked things.

So, there you go: 1960s Torchwood had the info from somewhere and were in need of some cash due to their incompetence and there you have it. In the 70s Three went to see them and annoyed an elderly lady who felt his manners were not the equal of that nice Mr Cushing. ;D

[jjpor]

Dec 17, 2009 1:12:49 GMT Stripes said:

I disapprove!

Sorry, Newton!

I like lostspook's suggestion too - no doubt TW were financing the Cushing Who films as part of some intelligence effort that may or may not have paid off (same way the CIA used to pay newpaper columnists, film critics etc to put USA-friendly sentiments into their writings, even if they weren't directly politics-related. No, they did! Really!). Just like they were really financing all of those dodgy 70s-era scientific projects that Three and UNIT ended up having to clean up...

One thing I will say about the Dalek movies (and I do love them really, despite their not-really-Who status, partly because it may well have been the first time the young-me saw a Dalek after hearing about them a lot from my Who-fan aunty. It was that or the bit in the Five Doctors), is that the Cush does genuinely seem to be having fun in them. Cushing usually played his roles dead straight, "sincerely" as he used to say, which certainly paid off in the many low-budget Brit horror films in which he appeared, where he was often the best thing onscreen, adding a definite gravity and dignity to the often-trashy proceedings. However, in his Who outings, he really seems to be camping it up by his own rather restrained standards, being as eccentric and quirky as he could be, and it's very heartening to see and good to watch. And that is all. ;D

[clocketpatch]

Another explanation: www.whofic.com/viewstory.php?sid=23504


There's one around that links it with alt!REG!Nine too that I rather like...