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Post by jjpor on Dec 14, 2009 21:09:15 GMT
_Everything_ sounds more plausible in an English accent! ;D
Well, I've commented before on Lalla Ward's remarkable teeth - it must have something to do with being a member of the aristocracy or something... Which leads inevitably to the conclusion that if Four and Romana II had ever produced offspring, the dental costs alone would have probably resulted in the Doctor having to get a second job.
Now, what sort of second job would suit the Doctor is another thing to speculate about entirely - answers on a postcard please! ;D
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Post by Stripes on Dec 15, 2009 1:05:19 GMT
I can see the doctor become an engineer and be happy.
Oh! JJ, I now want to send you a post card.
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Post by magnusgreel on Dec 15, 2009 19:53:07 GMT
Ooh, I think she'd make a lovely Romana redux - assuming she doesn't sport a voice like Lina Lamont of Singin' in the Rain fame. Nice pick. Romana has survived so much, I think she'd survive the advent of talkies. Do I know what I'm talking about? Not necessarily! Jjpor, I've always thought that Romana Dos had royal-looking dental appendages, and lo and whatever, it turned out that Lalla is related to aristocracy.
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Post by jjpor on Dec 16, 2009 0:14:40 GMT
Yes, it's to do with the breeding, I gather. Or something. The upper classes are a strange lot, come to think of it.
So, Newton, what you're saying is that if the Doctor just found himself an honest line of work, he'd be more content? I think that might well be true in Ten's case. I wonder what Handy does to make ends meet in the Infernoverse? I can't see Pete Tyler just letting him sponge off the family fortune forever; you know what these self-made men are like with their work ethics etc.
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Post by Stripes on Dec 16, 2009 3:32:49 GMT
Yes, it's to do with the breeding, I gather. Or something. The upper classes are a strange lot, come to think of it. So, Newton, what you're saying is that if the Doctor just found himself an honest line of work, he'd be more content? When I made the comment, no, I was not. You mention the Doctor working a normal job, and I suddenly imaged all ten doctors working as an engineer. Though each doctor would be in a different field on engineering. The just fits him so well. He can work with his hands, it hard and a lot of his co workers would be very smart. Now, I don't think the doctor could ever settle down, he will always be a traveling hobo, though I do think every so often he needs a break, so I can see him settle down somewhere, working a fulling job for a few years until he is rested and ready to go. Look at Three, i mean sure, he didn't choose to stay one earth, but i think the break was well needed and he still got to fulfill some of his adventures urges and have some fulfilling work.
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Post by merrythemad on Dec 16, 2009 3:56:26 GMT
I must object to the idea of work being fulfilling, this is nurture not nature, work CAN be fulfilling but is always a necessary evil.
and I too want to send JJ a postcard
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Post by Stripes on Dec 16, 2009 16:28:15 GMT
I must object to the idea of work being fulfilling, this is nurture not nature, work CAN be fulfilling but is always a necessary evil. and I too want to send JJ a postcard *blinks* random outburst? I have to disagree with you on the "but is always a necessary evil". Some jobs we need and they do good. Like doctors, i mean... even as cave men, we fell of cliff and roken our arms. You need someone to know how to deal with the broken arm! SOMEONE! Work is not evil. The C.E.O of Walmart, that is evil work.
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Post by clocketpatch on Dec 16, 2009 18:30:57 GMT
I think Merry means the we don't naturally feel compelled to go out and get jobs, but we have to because we like to eat and stuff.
(but yes, being a doctor is definitely better than being the CEO of Walmart LOL)
(and I just capitalized doctor... I do it unconsciously now.... which is going to lead to funny looks one of these days...)
(and, for the record, I LOVE my job, it keeps me out of trouble, and I think I'd work there for free just for the company... except for... you know... having to eat and stuff)
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Post by Maggadin on Dec 16, 2009 19:00:58 GMT
The upper classes are a strange lot, come to think of it. I once read something about Lalla's greatgrandmother (at least I think it was) who was a scientist in her own right and died in some freak accident.
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Post by jjpor on Dec 16, 2009 22:47:31 GMT
Yes, her great grandmother, Mary Ward, was a prominent Victorian microscopist and astronomer. And has the dubious distinction of being the first person to get killed in a car accident! No, I don't just know this sort of stuff. Wikipedia is your friend (provided you're not too worried about, you know, reliability): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Ward_(scientist)And yeah, on the subject of work, I don't think that "work" is necessarily fulfilling and virtuous in and of itself. This is why I will never get ahead in the world! ;D I suggested Ten might be more content with a regular life with Rose etc, but you know, cosy and content isn't necessarily a good thing, especially not if you're the Doctor. In fact, the whole work ethic thing probably goes against the very subversive, counter-cultural streak that runs right through Doctor Who from start to finish. Not that there aren't people who love their jobs, or indeed jobs that we can all more or less agree are noble undertakings, but as my granddad put it, and I don't think I can phrase it better, "you work to live, you don't live to work."
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Post by Maggadin on Dec 17, 2009 0:26:39 GMT
Yes, her great grandmother, Mary Ward, was a prominent Victorian microscopist and astronomer. And has the dubious distinction of being the first person to get killed in a car accident!
No, I don't just know this sort of stuff. Wikipedia is your friend (provided you're not too worried about, you know, reliability): So that's where she gets her drawing-talent, apparently. Also, Wikipedia states that she and Tom Baker married in 1980. I always thought it was 1981?
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Post by clocketpatch on Dec 17, 2009 16:31:05 GMT
This will undoubtedly help me win the final question on Jeopardy one of these days. I'll be sure to split the winnings when that day occurs.
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Post by jjpor on Dec 19, 2009 22:50:44 GMT
I'll hold you to that, Clocket! And here's the lady herself: I can't really see a family resemblance, but maybe if she smiled... ;D
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Post by Maggadin on Dec 19, 2009 22:58:01 GMT
I can see it. There's the facial shape and the nose.
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Post by jjpor on Dec 19, 2009 23:06:06 GMT
Yes, you may be right about the shape of the face. And the ears - one of the things I noticed in Creature from the Pit (apart from the nudging thing!) was the shape of Lalla Ward's ears. Not that I watch these things obsessively or anything. ;D
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Post by Maggadin on Dec 19, 2009 23:25:21 GMT
Well, be sure to have the Doctor mention her pretty ears in your next fic, JJ. ;D
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Post by magnusgreel on Dec 19, 2009 23:42:41 GMT
Nice to see the Lalla ancestor in full-tilt party mode.
Jjpor = out-of-control ear fetish!
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Post by jjpor on Dec 20, 2009 0:36:37 GMT
Ear fetish?! Well, now that you mention it... They are very fine ears, though. In fact, without wanting to lower the tone, Lalla looks positively stunning in Creature from the Pit. For that reason, and a number of others, I would argue that is is an unfairly-maligned Who story, and deserves more respect. ;D And indeed, Mary Ward looks like a party animal, does she not? ;D
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Post by magnusgreel on Dec 20, 2009 20:52:53 GMT
I've never noticed anybody's ears except possibly Lyndon Johnson's, which scraped the desk as he gave presidential addresses. Yes our president was a Ferengi. I don't notice eyes either. I couldn't tell you the eye color of anyone I've ever known. CoP may be next up in the series of K9 stories I'm showing a friend's daughter.... Lalla is great in that one generally. I like her telling off her lowly metal-grubbing captors... the costume is quite something too. Any Tom story can beat out just about any other Doctor's, no matter what's wrong with it!
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Post by jjpor on Dec 21, 2009 20:41:19 GMT
My God, it's true! He looks like one of those Easter Island statues: While I'm doing picspam of dubious topicality, here's Louse Brooks the silent movie star that (as mentioned in the cbox the other night) the Romana III in the EDA novels was supposed to look like: And yeah, Creature from the Pit is one I really do like. Even the daft stuff like the "Teach Yourself Tibetan" book and the vampire tumbleweeds seem to work. And the story's actually pretty good. And it has Geoffrey Bayldon out of Catweazle and many an old Brit horror film to recommend it too. And it's a really strong Romana II story, if you're into Romana II; I believe it was also the first story Lalla Ward played her in (although it was something like the third one of hers actually to air), so if she seems a bit more Romana I-ish than usual, that's probably why.
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