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Post by merrythemad on Dec 7, 2008 21:48:21 GMT
My friend sent me a link to this and I thought it sounded like fun and I also thought you guys might be interested. Tomorrow (tomorrow being Monday, December 8) is "Pretend to be a time traveler Day". It's silly, of course, but when fun doesn't involve silly, it usually involves danger and I'd not go about suggesting you do dangerous things. anyway, the link is below! www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=48918718131 |
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Post by magnusgreel on Dec 8, 2008 6:36:27 GMT
I thought I'd check in here to get all nostalgic about those simple days so long ago when I wasn't President of the Solar System, and hadn't even invented faster-than-light travel (a lot of money in that as I found out). All the preservatives I ate in the 20th century eventually made me grow a third leg, but now I couldn't imagine life without it.
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Post by magnusgreel on Dec 8, 2008 6:37:23 GMT
What cool things can you do with that extra leg, future self?
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Post by merrythemad on Dec 8, 2008 13:32:16 GMT
I imagine a third leg would be a bit awkward socially...but yes, what cool things does it do? And mental note never argue with present Magnus, your future in the solar system may depend on agreeing with him. At any rate, I think it sounds like fun and I am going to be amusing myself in my droll classes with this.
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Post by Stripes on Dec 8, 2008 17:02:55 GMT
I thought I'd check in here to get all nostalgic about those simple days so long ago when I wasn't President of the Solar System, and hadn't even invented faster-than-light travel (a lot of money in that as I found out). All the preservatives I ate in the 20th century eventually made me grow a third leg, but now I couldn't imagine life without it. So future Magnus with an extra leg. I see you claim to be president of the solar system. Was this before or after I was in power? Or am I, like The MASTER someone who always fails. Can't say he don't dream. He never gives up. That's what I like about us Saxons, we have goal and we don't stop until we get it.  |
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Post by jjpor on Dec 8, 2008 22:53:43 GMT
It's not all fun and games, though. Little did I know when I stepped into my Patent Temporal Perambulator back in 1878 that I would be forced to spend the rest of my days in the benighted early 21st Century, a depraved and barbaric era where the globe is no longer resplendent in the pink hue of the British Empire, where children are forced to stay in school instead of undertaking gainful employment such as sweeping chimneys, and where, shockingly, women, foreigners and poor people are allowed to vote!* Fortunately, my few personal possessions were now priceless antiques, which provided the financial resources I needed to start converting the Perambulator for the return journey. I really should have designed it with a reverse gear in the first place...
*I jest, folks; I jest!
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Post by magnusgreel on Dec 9, 2008 9:38:09 GMT
Coincidentally, just before coming here, I stopped at a site about a man who claimed around 2000 to be a time-traveller (from 2036 with a time machine made by General Electric, using two spinning micro-singularities), and who actually won a lot of people over. I had quite the freaky afternoon a couple of years ago, going over his story, gradually coming to terms with the idea that it's not impossible that it's true. Currently the site seems a bit right-wing, but it wasn't last time I was there. www.johntitor.com |
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Post by Stripes on Dec 9, 2008 18:40:51 GMT
This site sounds more like some crazy religious person (or people) who want everyone to convert and live like the Amish. They are using fear saying that they will be a world war 3 etc. I tend to believe in these things but I find this person a load of crap.
There is too much religious facts, scripts etc to make me believe him. Plus, why isn't he mentioning other religions?
He only talks about the USA. I get that there everyone is a closer community but there is still travel and communication outside, why doesn't he talk about other countries?
I see a bit of 1984 in here too, but mostly he seems to refer to life before WWII.
All in all, if was really from the future, he would answer "Who won the Super Bowl in 2001?" Not like that's going to do much change in time.
Oh look, a flaw
Does anything happen in the year 2012? I've heard stories about the world ending.
In my 2012, I was 14 years old spending most of my time living, running and hiding in the woods and rivers of central Florida. The civil war was in its 7th year and the world war was three years away. Yes, there are unusual events in 2012 but they do not cause the world to end. Unfortunately, I have decided not to discuss events that you or I can do anything about. It is important that they be a surprise. Perhaps you are familiar with the story of the Red Sea and the Egyptians?"
Are the Olympics still being played in the future?
As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004. However, it appears they may be revived in 2040.
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Post by magnusgreel on Dec 9, 2008 23:03:38 GMT
As I was saying, the right-wing tone is more recent, and comes from the people currently managing the site, I guess. Supposedly, the man calling himself Titor went back a few years ago, and the site was created by people who believed him after this. Despite the eye thing, I kept reading, which says something in itself. There was no right-wing tone in anything he said; in fact, if anything he went fairly far in the other direction.
Actually, you can see whatever you want in what he says, probably.
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Post by Stripes on Dec 9, 2008 23:12:39 GMT
As I was saying, the right-wing tone is more recent, and comes from the people currently managing the site, I guess. Supposedly, the man calling himself Titor went back a few years ago, and the site was created by people who believed him after this. Despite the eye thing, I kept reading, which says something in itself. There was no right-wing tone in anything he said; in fact, if anything he went fairly far in the other direction. Actually, you can see whatever you want in what he says, probably. He said America would be in a civil war by 2005. There will be no Olympics after 2004. I said before, he doesn't meantion anything world wide, just in his little town. He doesn't prove enough evidance for me. Look at the Doctor, he will meantion things here and there which are alot more believeable then this guy. That alone doesn't make me believe him. |
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Post by jjpor on Dec 9, 2008 23:19:48 GMT
Still, despite the dubious politicking on the site, it is a very good story - I especially like the way he uses the many worlds hypothesis to try and get around the fact that all of his predictions are, of course, not going to come true - he's not from _our_ future but from a parallel universe's futue. And I didn't know about that 2038 computer bug thing. Thanks for the link anyway, Magnus - I love oddities like this, and am kind of amazed I hadn't heard of this character before. Makes a change from UFOs and Bigfoot, anyway. |
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Post by Kit on Dec 9, 2008 23:24:32 GMT
Bugger, I missed it! I was planning on walking up to people and asking what year it is. School needs to stop eating Free Time.
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Post by Stripes on Dec 9, 2008 23:25:17 GMT
Still, despite the dubious politicking on the site, it is a very good story - I especially like the way he uses the many worlds hypothesis to try and get around the fact that all of his predictions are, of course, not going to come true - he's not from _our_ future but from a parallel universe's futue. And I didn't know about that 2038 computer bug thing. Thanks for the link anyway, Magnus - I love oddities like this, and am kind of amazed I hadn't heard of this character before. Makes a change from UFOs and Bigfoot, anyway. I agree that he has some good stories and sort of thought through. I just don't believe him like mangus does. Maybe I would have believd him in 2000 - 2004, but now I don't. Oh an the picture sof his time mechine look like some cardboard box build in his living room. I will say this, he throught it out well and went as far building a thing, he made internet history. He has a wikipedia page and has had his own play. He was a very creative person. |
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Post by magnusgreel on Dec 10, 2008 0:24:12 GMT
Newton... I don't actually believe him, I just said that it's possible. (His own play? You've found things I didn't know about.) He addresses each one of these concerns of yours if you read far enough. He passed every idiot-crank test I put in front of him. Jjpor's right about the alternate or rewritten time-line thing.
I think the fact that the photo and diagrams relating to the "time machine" look awkward and primitive add to the believability. This isn't a movie, and the thing isn't being mass-marketed to consumers, so the makers could feel free not to worry about looks and just build something functional. You don't need gleaming, streamlined control panels just to send a handful of people back to do a job.
Spinning, artificial micro-singularities actually are talked about as a time-travel method.
He did deal with the rest of the world, but he concentrates on the US because he's American. We tend to do that, even in the future, I guess. After a war like that, we're not as globally connected anymore.
He said George W would get in trouble over revelations about Waco, and that would set other things in motion. Events seem to have moved far past that.
He doesn't seem to care that much about convincing us, that aids believability. On the other hand, why talk to us at all?
I liked one line of his: "The future does not like you." He depicts us now as self-indulgent, irresponsible children, and that by hiding our heads in pop culture and wasteful mass-consumerism, we're creating damage they have to clear up in the future, and making ourselves oblivious to a coming war.
Someone on a board criticized his story for being too similar to a classic SF novel whose title escapes me right now.
For what little it may be worth, I have no idea who won any Super Bowl, ever!
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Post by Stripes on Dec 10, 2008 0:34:25 GMT
Newton... I don't actually believe him, I just said that it's possible. (His own play? You've found things I didn't know about.) He addresses each one of these concerns of yours if you read far enough. He passed every idiot-crank test I put in front of him. Jjpor's right about the alternate or rewritten time-line thing. I think the fact that the photo and diagrams relating to the "time machine" look awkward and primitive add to the believability. This isn't a movie, and the thing isn't being mass-marketed to consumers, so the makers could feel free not to worry about looks and just build something functional. You don't need gleaming, streamlined control panels just to send a handful of people back to do a job. Spinning, artificial micro-singularities actually are talked about as a time-travel method. He did deal with the rest of the world, but he concentrates on the US because he's American. We tend to do that, even in the future, I guess. After a war like that, we're not as globally connected anymore. He said George W would get in trouble over revelations about Waco, and that would set other things in motion. Events seem to have moved far past that. He doesn't seem to care that much about convincing us, that aids believability. On the other hand, why talk to us at all? I liked one line of his: "The future does not like you." He depicts us now as self-indulgent, irresponsible children, and that by hiding our heads in pop culture and wasteful mass-consumerism, we're creating damage they have to clear up in the future, and making ourselves oblivious to a coming war. Someone on a board criticized his story for being too similar to a classic SF novel whose title escapes me right now. He was right about the USA elections in 2004 and how 2008 was going to be big. He did not say exactly. I guess it would is all in good fun. Like I said, I tend to believe in things other people don't, like timetravel. Untill I walk into a tardis myself, I do not believe him. I keep wondering why people never looked up his name since he was born in 1988. Oh my, he is only 10 years younger than me.  |
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Post by magnusgreel on Dec 10, 2008 0:39:32 GMT
He says at one point that "John Titor" was definitely a name he just made up.
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Post by Stripes on Dec 10, 2008 19:41:39 GMT
He says at one point that "John Titor" was definitely a name he just made up. I am sure there is a john titor somewhere. I am going to look for one. |
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Post by Aldebaran on Dec 11, 2008 3:16:34 GMT
Has anyone read/seen HG Wells' "The Time Machine"? I LOVED the movie remake, despite it being a remake... but shamefully I haven't read the book as of yet.  |
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Post by merrythemad on Dec 11, 2008 14:13:55 GMT
I've read the book, I was practically raised on Lovecraft and Wells (with some Asimov thrown in for variety lol). Sadly, with school and kids and what not I do believe the last time I read it I was probably, gosh, well a good deal younger than I am today.
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Post by jjpor on Dec 11, 2008 23:12:22 GMT
The Time Machine is a really good read, if you get the chance to check it out, Aldy - like a lot of his works, it is in large part used to illustrate Wells' social and political views - the Morlocks are the downtrodden industrial workers, the Eloi the soft elite, their roles darkly and ironically reversed. Regarding films, I liked the remake fine, but I really love the old 1960 George Pal version - tones down a lot of the thoughtful stuff in the book in favour of action-adventure, but it's still great. They really don't make 'em like that any more.
My favourite Wells book remains War of the Worlds, however - I don't think any of the adaptations have done it full justice. I want to see tripods trampling Victorian Surrey, dammit! ;D
Ah, Merry - a fellow Lovecraftian? ;D
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