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Post by sss979 on Feb 8, 2013 2:28:00 GMT
New Who is not my specialty and 11th Doctor even less so. But I have a story idea for 11 and River and would like to work with someone who DOES consider that their specialty if at all possible. Without giving away the entire plot (which I really haven't even worked out yet) it involves a "second attempt" at a lab created Time Lord - namely River's child. I have an end goal in mind (and this will NOT go AU with River and 11 playing "happy family"), but there are a lot of specifics I don't have worked out yet. Part of why I'm looking for a cowriter.
"Cowrite", for me, involves some brainstorming, some real-time RP (ie we sit down and play through a scene, then end it and walk away from the computer - as opposed to one post every few hours when we come back to it), and a read-through of the finished product. I would be doing the vast majority of the work, and I'm not in an incredible hurry to get it done; this is not something that will take up every waking moment of your free time. You'd be along for the ride and I promise, it is a LOT of fun. :-P
No novel writing or RP experience necessary. No knowledge of classic necessary, though it would add something to the conversation. I will say that I'd prefer to work with someone over 18. I don't have any particular intent on any "adult" scenes, but I don't want to have to watch what I say for fear of parents finding logs and thinking things I didn't intend. So after all of that... is anyone interested? Any questions that might help you decide if you're interested?
-Fig
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Post by primsong on Feb 8, 2013 2:39:06 GMT
I must say you sound like a right jolly writer person, and I'm pleased you're here. That said, I must sadly say I have barely any knowledge at all of 11 and River... I sort of wandered away when the Moff-plots just kept on being so chaotic, in spite of the awesome that is Rory. So! While I fully intend to get back in there and catch up, I keep on ending up doing something like going back and watching Four, or Two or Five when I have a chance at some Who, heh.
For reference should it match up with some later project for you, I am faaar beyond 18, a 'gen' writer who prefers canon characterizations, and I usually write Three with occasional bouts of One, Two or Four, but I do hope one of our NuWho writers may be able to pick up a string or two to play with you this time. ^_^
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Post by Maggadin on Feb 8, 2013 19:50:47 GMT
It sounds like a fic I wrote recently - only that was Eleven/Romana.
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Post by primsong on Feb 9, 2013 18:19:01 GMT
Ah, Romana! I'm still of mixed thought on whether they should bring her back or not, because Eleven and Romana would be AWESOME - but I don't trust the current writers to write her character properly and it would be like watching something lovely be crushed underfoot to have them warp her into a Mary Sue.
But, 11/Romana - lovely possibilities there.
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Post by Maggadin on Feb 9, 2013 19:59:10 GMT
It's up on the Teaspoon now, if ya want to read.
And, er, totally didn't mean to hijack your thread, Fig, I just thought it was interesting that we'd had similar thoughts.
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Post by primsong on Feb 10, 2013 0:11:13 GMT
Not that we EVER hijack threads around here. Nope. Nuh-uh. We Stay On Topic, Always. Right?
*crickets*
Right? ;-)
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Post by Maggadin on Feb 10, 2013 0:13:38 GMT
Now now, Prim. I'll have no such impish shenanigans!
there's a link to it on my lj
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Post by sss979 on Feb 10, 2013 4:35:41 GMT
lol Well and good. I'll hijack my own thread to say that I agree completely... would love to see Romana back BUT. And it's a big "but". I also wouldn't trust the current writers and, maybe a bigger issue for me, I consider Big Finish to be canon - ESPECIALLY 8's era. I wouldn't want to see something on the screen that doesn't acknowledge the fact that Romana was president of Gallirey - quite possibly during the first part of the Time War. And I tend to think they'd overlook that entirely if they brought her back to the screen.
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Post by Maggadin on Feb 10, 2013 18:08:21 GMT
I agree with not trusting the writers to do her justice. And see your BF and raise your my issue that I'd want there to be shippiness/romance between her and the Doctor if they brought her back, and Moffat will never do that as long as River is still around. I'm so oppressed. And look at that, I've been upgraded to Time Lord!
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Post by sss979 on Feb 11, 2013 9:24:36 GMT
Heh heh. Now you're REALLY gonna get me started. lol Character exploration and respectful debate are two of my "most favoritest" things in the world... So here's some food for thought. I do think there was an element of romance - even sexuality - between the Doctor and Romana but (and a very big but) I don't think I would "ship" them as such. I'm still not really clear on all the context and definition of that term (it wasn't used in my previous fandom) but it seems to me that it implies something that I'm not sure I would want in canon. Not with those two. Not that a fanfic writer couldn't "ship" 11 and Romana convincingly and I WILL have to check out your story at some point because the idea intrigues me (a lot, actually). But putting it into canon means that all other fics must either build on it or become AU. Part of the problem I have with River, actually, and the way she's written. She's a GREAT pet OC. I wish she wasn't in canon. (However, to his credit, I am starting to realize how Moffat used her to "grow" the Doctor through stages of maturity, so she does have her uses. But anyway...) To be fair, I DO romanticize the relationship between the Doctor and Romana, even to the point of making it a bit controversial during the Time War. But I think first and foremost they are friends and not lovers - a fine line to walk, for sure, but particularly with 11 and the example of his relationship with Amy (friend) versus River (lover)... he makes the distinction sharper than most. The other issue I would have is Gallifrey - and I don't mean the question of how she survived because that's easy. But if Gallifrey was "hers" to protect (as president, before Rassilon) and he destroyed Gallifrey and all of her people... there would be some SERIOUS emotional issues to work out there. And aside from fleeting glances of darkened looks, 11 seems very much "over" the Time War. At least enough to pull as stunt like Demons Run... Thoughts? (Now that the thread is officially hijacked. lol Also, where can I find this Romana/11 story?) -Fig
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Post by Maggadin on Feb 11, 2013 12:30:45 GMT
Heh, well, Doctor/Romana is my OTP, so I'll never be able not to ship it. I agree that it gets iffy when they start putting the Doctor in 'relationships' in canon. I feel tHowever, now that they've (or so they say, see my thoughts below) done that with River, I'd be miffed if they didn't do it with Romana. My problem is that there would almost be no way they'd be able to bring her back satisfactorily. I mean, it would be difficult to have her leave again like the last time (another issue I have with River, she just won't leave) and they couldn't just have her appear once and have them be all ''Oh, you're not dead? That's nice, see you later.'' I'm also afraid that they'd have them hate/resent each other over Gallifrey. To be honest, I'm not seeing the True Love in the Eleven/River relationship that we're apparently asked to see. Yes, she loves him ('obsessed' is more how I'd describe it), but he really doesn't give me the impression that he's anywhere nearly as attached to her as vice versa. But then, I find her attachment him unhealthy to the point of pathology. At this point, I'm more uncomfortable with how Eleven treats her, than I'm annoyed with River. So, yeah, not buying it, personally, however much Moffat might want me to think otherwise (although I'm not even sure what he does want, he's sending major mixed signals). And while Eleven might make clear distinctions, I don't the previous Doctors have necessarily done so. The best lover is also a friend IMO. I don't think River has matured the Doctor, really. In fact, I don't she's had that huge of an impact on him. In fact, I think he's deal very immaturely (even dangerously) with the whole thing. It's all in all pretty much the same issues that I had with Ten/Rose. I agree that River works better as an OC than in canon. As for Gallifrey, I love Romana the Renegade that we saw at the end of Warrior's Gate, but I like President Romana if she's written as a progressive/'radical' leader. You know, a revolutionary! ;D As for fic, here you are! who-at-50.livejournal.com/13916.htmlAnd, erm, I've kind of turned this thread into my very own beating-a-dead-horse-party. Sorry about that, everyone (especially Fig).
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Post by sss979 on Feb 12, 2013 2:32:10 GMT
lmao No apologies necessary. :-P Like I said, character discussion trumps all for me.
-Fig
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