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Post by aquabluejay on Feb 19, 2012 4:21:08 GMT
That was awesome JJ. I vote we just let JJ write this adventure as a fic now. We don't need no stinking publishing company! Also, I failed to mention before, but I totally squeed during Miracle Day when De Lancie showed up! ^^
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Post by primsong on Feb 19, 2012 5:02:02 GMT
I totally enjoyed that - now I want to read more of it! ^_^ The possibilities really are quite convoluted and extensive.
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Post by Cadet on Feb 19, 2012 5:06:03 GMT
I don't watch Torchwood...still, it's cool that De Lancie was in it. And I agree with Aqua; we let JJ write it as a fic.
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Post by jjpor on Feb 19, 2012 22:40:11 GMT
Ah, De Lancie in Torchwood: "Bring all their lawyers in here so I can line them up and..." Yeah... ;D Glad you liked the fic-snippet. I have a nasty suspicion that it'd turn into some sort of vast, sprawling epic like this vast, sprawling Trek-Star Wars crossover I once read. But I'll stick it on the list of plot-bunnies, to be sure.
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Post by Cadet on Feb 19, 2012 23:49:59 GMT
If you decide to write, be sure to tell us, then.
Now, what is this Trek/Wars crossover you mention? I can never find decent ones....
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Post by aquabluejay on Feb 20, 2012 4:39:21 GMT
Glad you liked the fic-snippet. I have a nasty suspicion that it'd turn into some sort of vast, sprawling epic like this vast, sprawling Trek-Star Wars crossover I once read. But I'll stick it on the list of plot-bunnies, to be sure. Anything short of "Terminal Decay" and I'll totally read it and love you forever.
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Post by jjpor on Feb 20, 2012 21:29:48 GMT
Well, if I ever do, aqua, Cadet, you will be the first to know. This is the Trek/Star Wars fic, Cadet - it may be a bit less massive than I remember, actually, but it's good. A bit AU from both Trek and Wars canon, but I guess it'd have to be to make the crossover work anyway: stardestroyer.net/Empire/Fanfic/Conquest/index.html
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Post by Cadet on Feb 21, 2012 0:48:47 GMT
Ooohh, thanks, JJ! -disappears to read crossover-
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Post by jjpor on Feb 22, 2012 20:09:20 GMT
A thought occurs to me: In the recent S6 story, the one with the Cybermen and James Corden and the baby (I've just remembered the title was closing time, but I like the description I've just typed too much to delete it ;D) - the Doctor and the character Craig both directly referenced Star Trek transporters.
And then again, slightly more obscurely, I distinctly remember a passage from one of the New Adventures novels where Bernice Summerfield was watching TNG on Mexican TV (it was the one where the evil Aztec god killed John Lennon and tried to kill Seven on the Titanic. They were a bit like that, the NAs. ;D)
So, my point is...if Trek exists in the Whoniverse and yet we have Eleven and co interacting with Picard and crew...that leaves the path open for some crunchy, vitamin-filled Land of Fiction*-related goodness, yes?
Not that the comic will go there at all, of course.
* For the benefit of our newest member(s) - if you haven't seen The Mind Robber, try and see The Mind Robber. It's a trip.
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Post by Cadet on Feb 22, 2012 23:36:51 GMT
I just realized that you're right, JJ. Now you have to wonder, does both these things existing and being real in the Whoniverse mean that there was some sort of time travel adventure involved? Like, the Doctor takes a future Star Trek writer into the Federation's time? And what about all the wars that happened in the Trekverse but never happened in real life or the Whoniverse?
Ok, done pouring out every thought that occurs to me in a post.
...wait, did that make any sense at all?
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Post by johne on Feb 22, 2012 23:44:08 GMT
A thought occurs to me: In the recent S6 story, the one with the Cybermen and James Corden and the baby (I've just remembered the title was closing time, but I like the description I've just typed too much to delete it ;D) - the Doctor and the character Craig both directly referenced Star Trek transporters. Not to mention all those namechecks of 'Spock' in The Empty Child / The Doctor Dances. Barring the Land of Fiction, I can think of at least one other possible explanation: the one from Stephen Ratliff's notorious ' Marrissa Picard' fanfics, in which the Star Trek franchise existed in the Star Trek universe, and was an accurate prediction of the future.
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Post by aquabluejay on Feb 23, 2012 0:31:51 GMT
Yes, I like this theory. Maybe the Doctor is responsible for that vision of the future. Maybe Roddenberry was a companion at some earlier point in his life. Maybe the whole show is actually real life filmed by some time traveling version of the great jabber-whatzit from the whole Satellite five thing... XD
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Post by jjpor on Feb 23, 2012 21:24:52 GMT
Good call on the Spock thing, johne. And, I've read the TV Tropes page for those fics before...but never the works themselves... But it doesn't sound like the most far-out element present there, from what I can see. ;D
But yes, given the presence of time travel in Trek too - and just how AU both the Trek universe and, if we're honest, the Whoniverse are compared to our own recent history and so on, I'd say the possible answers to this particular question are probably endless...
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Post by johne on Feb 23, 2012 22:16:53 GMT
Good call on the Spock thing, johne. And, I've read the TV Tropes page for those fics before...but never the works themselves... But it doesn't sound like the most far-out element present there, from what I can see. ;D As the page says, most readers come across them through the MSTed versions -- I certainly did.
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Post by clocketpatch on Feb 24, 2012 6:45:10 GMT
Hmm... I seem to remember that the joke in Empty Child/DD was going to be carried further with Nine saying, "I'd rather Doctor Who than Star Trek"
But it was vetoed by Rusty because it snapped the viewer out of the scene.
I like that theory. Doesn't Who have something similar to Who in-universe anyway? Professor What? Or something along those lines... And then there was the beginning of Remembrance...
Mind Robber is a trip. I fully recommend it. Just don't expect to understand anything...
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Post by aquabluejay on Feb 24, 2012 12:02:24 GMT
I will have to get around to watching that one eventually...
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Post by johne on Feb 24, 2012 12:57:23 GMT
I like that theory. Doesn't Who have something similar to Who in-universe anyway? Professor What? Or something along those lines... And then there was the beginning of Remembrance... The books had 'Professor X', which was like Doctor Who only more overtly comic (there's a scene in No Future where the Professor puts in an appearance; he's played by Frankie Howerd very much in the style of Up Pompeii). I've also seen the notion flirted with in at least one fanfic, where the series is called (IIRC) 'Who Goes There?', and Eight explains to Tegan (who's seen the telemovie) which parts of it are true.
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Post by jjpor on Feb 24, 2012 20:14:17 GMT
Heh, yes, Professor X...! ;D I still don't know who (or Who) the Beeb continuity announcer was about to announce in Remembrance, but that's another one to consider. And then there was Professor Nightshade, as featured in the novel Nightshade and name-checked at least once in another NA iirc. Although Nightshade may have been more Quatermass than Who, thinking about it (and Quatermass himself is implied to exist in the Whoniverse in Remembrance - unless it was some completely different bloke called Bernard involved in something called the British Rocket Group...). But yes...
As for Frankie Howerd and Up Pompeii - for those of you unfamiliar with them, they cannot be described only experienced. Almost certainly on YouTube somewhere or other, I should think.
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Post by Cadet on Feb 24, 2012 21:38:27 GMT
I have no idea what this conversation is about anymore, lol...
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Post by jjpor on Feb 25, 2012 12:38:35 GMT
It has...crept a little, I'll agree.
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